tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post2182708995115510788..comments2024-03-18T13:13:41.444+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: Regarding Lara LoganZeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-90179973097211079062012-04-07T21:21:04.739+02:002012-04-07T21:21:04.739+02:00You are full of shit. She didn't lie once. You...You are full of shit. She didn't lie once. You may as well be denying the holocaust. Idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-3865997949125298782011-11-05T01:37:46.094+02:002011-11-05T01:37:46.094+02:00I am troubled by several things. First, CBS report...I am troubled by several things. First, CBS reported she was "stripped naked" then "beaten by poles" and "savagely gang raped and sodomized for 30 minutes by hundreds of men. THEN the story changed to she was "bitten all over" and "beaten with fists" but up (yet there are NO signs of any physical trauma on her when she did her interview a month later!). Next she claims that she was stipped naked and she knew it because she felt air on her breasts. Wait... WTF?? A mass of men are raping you and sodomizing you yet they never grope your chest? Really? NOW she is saying they "pinched her all over" and "stick their fingers in her vagina and anus." Really? A mob of crazed men have you naked for a half an hour and all they can think to do is stick their fingers inside you butt hole? So what? they like celebrating with white girl butt-smell on their hands? If you watch her interview, she is RECITING, not remembering. Everything she says is contrived. Even the camera man clearly does not say that she was naked OR bleeding. How is that humanly possible? Arab men physically destroyed Kaddafi within 5 minutes of him being grabbed. Yet she has no facial damage whatsoever? No pain a month later, can talk calmly and recite very interestingly worded yet devoid of specific details claims a month later. All she kept talking about was how they "pulled on her arms and legs." What? Really? It just all seems very manipulated for attention to me. I do not believe that woman. I believe she got scared and groped. I believe she may even have gotten shoved around.The rest I am thinking is just trying to further her career and get as much attention for herself as possible. <br /><br />The whole things just sounds difficult to believe. There has to be other cell phone video out there. I reserve my judgement on the truth until it surfaces. I just do not buy into the whole "lets nuke Egypt because Lara Logan is upset" song and dance. I see way way too much radical racism stirred up by this one woman. <br /><br />Seriously, it was her own news station that claimed she was "savagely and brutally gang raped and sodomized for over half an hour." Now she is trying to turn the initial LIE into some sort of feminist rant about the treatment of women world wide. Am I the only one wondering why there are so many things that do not line up with this? <br /><br />Seems the media needed a new reason to stir up interracial hatred and specifically American hatred toward people in the Middle East. And the mindless masses are immediate to think what they are told to think, believe what they are told to believe and hate whom they are told to hate. <br /><br />Reporters are by their very nature "creators of truth" rather than "recorders of truth." They are histrionic, attention-seeking, and vain. I am thinking this is the tale of a very emotionally needy and damaged woman. But I am thinking that happened a long time before she went to Egypt. I believe she saw this as an opportunity to stir up attention for herself. As sick as that sounds, I am tending to believe it is a better explanation for all the "changes" this story has gone through.<br /><br />I would venture to guess that there was NO semen found in Egypt and that when they examined her no rape was discovered. <br /><br />She returned to the USA and spent 4 days in the hospital. Why? Was she dehydrated? She says she was "torn" vaginally? Really? Yet a month later she has no pain? I do not know that a gang rape victim would only be monitored in a hospital for 4 days. And interestingly enough, she never mentions the fear of having contracted HIV or herpes or anything. <br /><br />Why not? Oh wait... the hundreds of men who grabbed her never actually penetrated her with anything other than their fingers? And then they used those fingers to PINCH her skin and pull her hair... after RIPPING ALL HER CLOTHES OFF... Does this make sense to anyone? It sure doesn't to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-39323173596297663922011-03-05T07:23:57.763+02:002011-03-05T07:23:57.763+02:00Here is an essay for you too, the racists who wan...Here is an essay for you too, the racists who want to paint this attack as unique to Arabs have a long way to go, discuss.<br /><br />Everyone has condemned the attack on Lara Logan. The dispute is over the racist attempts to attribute the attack to Islam or Arab culture. The painting of Muslims and Arabs as savages, while the West and Christianity is civilized should have died with colonialism. The statistics of western violence quoted in a comment above should be ample evidence that violence is not unique to the Arab world. (And those stats do not even include all the violence used by the western militaries, including torture, assassinations, etc. Abu Gharib, anyone?)<br /><br />The narrating of the story as a "sustained sexual assault" in which she was "rescued by 20 women" in the middle of all those Egyptian men in Tahrir Square is disturbing because it is a very unlikely reality. It sounds more like the stereotyping of Arab men in the American imagination. It is almost certain that Arab men rescued her from her attackers. This detail makes the narration lose credibility and detracts from constructive discussions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-72261999105217993152011-03-04T14:26:27.079+02:002011-03-04T14:26:27.079+02:00Here is an essay for you all, The Arabs have a ver...Here is an essay for you all, The Arabs have a very long way to go, discuss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-36956796796698163612011-03-04T13:21:47.576+02:002011-03-04T13:21:47.576+02:00there are a lot of people are blind. This assault ...there are a lot of people are blind. This assault was the public and held in apublic place where there was a lot of people who accept this extremely cruel act. Makers did not hide anyone, nor ashamed of it was the whole crowd on the street, and probably the majority view, it was normal.<br />Sorry for spelling errors, using the google translate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-35214035615792900852011-03-03T03:14:39.428+02:002011-03-03T03:14:39.428+02:00From Almasry Alyoum English Edition, March 2: Plan...From Almasry Alyoum English Edition, March 2: <a href="http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/337208" rel="nofollow">Planned Tahrir demo for allegedly assaulted US reporter sparks controversy</a>.<br /><br />Almasry Alyoum's comment is disgusting: "<em>no evidence of the alleged assault has been produced.</em>"<br /><br />Here is Alice's link enlivened: <a href="http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2011/02/eyewitness-shocking-truth-about-what.html" rel="nofollow">Eyewitness: About What Happened To Lara Logan</a>. @Alice, I don't know if you agree or even noticed, but Female Faust apparently thinks that if Logan's assailants were shouting "Jewish spy" at her rather than simply "Jew!" then that's <a href="http://politifi.com/news/If-A-Mob-Yells-Jew-Jew-In-A-Cairo-Square-Will-Any-MSM-Hear-It-1646879.html" rel="nofollow">perfectly fine</a>.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-52809613568115262692011-03-01T11:20:32.707+02:002011-03-01T11:20:32.707+02:00Eyewitness accounts of the Lara Logan incident:
h...Eyewitness accounts of the Lara Logan incident:<br /><br />http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2011/02/eyewitness-shocking-truth-about-what.html<br /><br />Hmm. Evidently Lara Logan is the new Jessica Lynch.Alicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-60971530484744502572011-02-28T07:00:27.505+02:002011-02-28T07:00:27.505+02:00The last anonymous didn't say anything to defe...The last anonymous didn't say anything to defend whom he tried to defend. All he said is that these sort of things happen elsewhere too, in a way he justified the barbaric act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1814276585293253662011-02-20T22:07:20.330+02:002011-02-20T22:07:20.330+02:00@last Anon,
I dont know from were you get your i...@last Anon, <br /><br />I dont know from were you get your info but it seems you watched too much Fox news!! I bet you have not been to any Gulf or Middle Eastern countries, Asian Muslim countries or even Cairo to say such bullshit comment! or even know any Muslim people in your community!<br /><br />"The culture is designed to subjugate and opress women. No wonder their women wear burkas"<br /><br />Dont compare what you see on fox news about women in Afghanistan or Pakistan to other Muslim countries and FYI, there are women who wears burkas on their own choice and not because they were force or oppress to do so. <br /><br />'the men can't control themselves'<br /><br />Even in the liberal West countries there are so many cases of sexual assaults, raped and domestic abused on women and children! at least in Muslims countries we dont have to spend thousands and the need to put security system in our own home for our safety!!!<br /><br />'society accepts and excuses their behaviour'<br /><br />No Muslim societies will accept and tolerated such behaviour in their countries as you indicated! <br /><br />We all know that we are not living in a world where there are no crimes! crimes happens and we have to deal with it! So GET A LIFE!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-19349642127162114102011-02-20T15:55:04.637+02:002011-02-20T15:55:04.637+02:00Lara was attacked by a bunch of filty animals. The...Lara was attacked by a bunch of filty animals. The culture is designed to subjugate and opress women. No wonder their women wear burkas, the men can't control themselves and society accepts and excuses their behaviour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-53375116273466865052011-02-20T05:41:01.883+02:002011-02-20T05:41:01.883+02:00OMG so much hatred and cursing @ the Egyptian peop...OMG so much hatred and cursing @ the Egyptian people! what happened to Lara is tragic and I am really sorry for her and my prayers for her recovery. People need to understand there were millions of people on that Square and we should not blame or label all Egyptian people as pig/rapist/thug/moron! this has nothing to do with religion or culture! sex assault and raped happens everywhere even in a civilized and liberal countries! and dont forget she was save by Egyptian women and the military! we just hope that there will be witnesses that will come forward and bring this thugs to justice! <br /><br />as for an Anon for his remark "A sexual assault like this definitely would not have happened in America, our police are too effective and our citizens are good Samaritans."<br /><br />are BS! I lived in Atlanta, GA and there were so many cases of sex assault and raped and I even remembered in 1996 on a Freaknik Parade girls were sexually assaulted and raped and until now the Mayor against having this parade in Atlanta but that didnt make me judge all black Americans or Americans rapist, pigs or moron or uncivilized people!<br /><br />As for the Zionist Jewish who thinks they are perfect and better than other people, read here:<br /><br />http://womensphere.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/sexual-harassment-cases-in-israels-civil-service-rose-40-in-2010/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1744217797915288792011-02-20T01:48:45.893+02:002011-02-20T01:48:45.893+02:00Dear Anonymous:
Rape is not endemic to one single...Dear Anonymous: <br />Rape is not endemic to one single group of people, gender, culture, or nation. Moreover, the violent rhetoric and tone of your comments reveal the same kind of rage, social inadequacy , flaccid imagination, and psychological sexual anxiety exhibited by most rapist. Could it be, that you are a latent rapist? <br /><br />Or, perhaps you have already raped inside your mind? <br /><br />Better yet, perhaps, you're an ideological rapist -- <br />a rapist of dreams, decency, peace, innocence, sunny days, civility, music, art, and everything that is holy and wholesome in the world. <br /><br />You see, my dear, "anonymous" friend: anyone who conducts himself/herself in the same kind of narrow-minded violent terms as you, is also a kind of rapist. <br /><br />We'll pray that God sends you love and illumination. <br />There is still hope for you. <br /><br />My COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO: <br /><br />"What happened to Lara Logan is exactly why Israel has nukes on the ready, 3min fly time away from every major Egyptian city... in case of war we cannot ever allow you pigs to take, even briefly, any Israeli town or village on the border because all the women there would become Lara Logans..."Jessie Sandovalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15310211323580772105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-80755738104941339972011-02-20T01:37:46.473+02:002011-02-20T01:37:46.473+02:00Unbelievable.
What I find ironic, or hilarious,...Unbelievable. <br /><br />What I find ironic, or hilarious, or f*cking outrageous, depending on what time of day it is, or how much booze I have had to drink, and so on, is the fact that the people who are calling Egyptians "pigs" and "savages" because a woman was brutally raped on their soil are the last people in line to do a damn thing about women's rights in the world. Women get raped and brutalized every day around the world. Do not for one minute think that I am fooled by your use of women's rights as a guise for your own bigotry. If you truly care about women's rights and if you are actually truly mortified by what happened to Lara Logan then shut up and do something. There are all sorts of organizations out there who are currently working to end the terrible atrocities that happen to women every day, in every corner of the world, including the good ol' USA. Put your money where your bigoted mouth is...sublimelazyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07430346332257000448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-44720338820656642802011-02-20T01:11:33.084+02:002011-02-20T01:11:33.084+02:00http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-120919...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12091982<br /><br /><br />What do you think of that "2/20/2011 12:35:00 AM" you fucking moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-5288699005857876452011-02-20T01:04:28.078+02:002011-02-20T01:04:28.078+02:00Zozo, This is not an American. This is a Subhuman ...Zozo, This is not an American. This is a Subhuman Zionist Jew. They are malodorous heaps of subhuman trash. You can literally smell them if they are in any building. Suddenly you feel unable to breath because of the stench... Ask any New Yorker :-)Count Bernadottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14492428031829122826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-12693212395561649812011-02-20T01:00:01.030+02:002011-02-20T01:00:01.030+02:00http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-120919...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12091982<br /><br /><br />What do you think of that "2/20/2011 12:35:00 AM" you fucking moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-24920334249293435402011-02-20T00:58:06.110+02:002011-02-20T00:58:06.110+02:00What a horrible thing to say Anonymous. I'm no...What a horrible thing to say Anonymous. I'm not worried for you that sometime you'll be in bed staring at the ceiling asking yourself how you could say such hateful things. I'm worried for you that you won't.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-6372966704090641052011-02-20T00:35:53.817+02:002011-02-20T00:35:53.817+02:00What happened to Lara Logan is exactly why Israel ...What happened to Lara Logan is exactly why Israel has nukes on the ready, 3min fly time away from every major Egyptian city... in case of war we cannot ever allow you pigs to take, even briefly, any Israeli town or village on the border because all the women there would become Lara Logans...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-48446240297430392222011-02-19T21:58:40.313+02:002011-02-19T21:58:40.313+02:00"A sexual assault like this definitely would ..."A sexual assault like this definitely would not have happened in America, our police are too effective and our citizens are good samaritans."<br />Wow! What's the color of the sky of the planet where you living on? Green? And could the unicorns there speak?<br />Your statement is dumber than dumb. <br /><br />JensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-81231780698576519352011-02-19T08:29:37.643+02:002011-02-19T08:29:37.643+02:00@ Anonymous: "Saying that Egyptian culture, ...@ Anonymous: "Saying that Egyptian culture, and Muslim culture in general is not misogynistic and violent is like saying America is not a country of overweight capitalists."<br /><br />"A sexual assault like this definitely would not have happened in America, our police are too effective and our citizens are good Samaritans."<br /><br />You apparently do not know Egypt or America.<br /><br />In the US in 2009 according to the FBI there were over 1,300,000 violent crimes; 15,000 murders, 88,000 forcible rapes, and 800,000 aggravated assaults. I do not have the Egyptian crime stats, but I am sure that compared to the US Egypt is NOT a violent place.<br /><br />During the LA riot, only one of many well-known riots in the US where mobs attacked people, there were 53 murdered, 2000 people injured, 3600 fires set destroying at least 1.100 buildings, unbridled looting, and 11,000 arrest in 5 days. Remember the Reginald Denny beating video where American samaritans stood and watched? Mobs can be violent anywhere.<br /><br />The Egyptian revolution was amazingly peaceful by contrast. However, I am sorry for everyone who was killed or hurt in Egypt, including Lara Logan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-56822544720323785932011-02-19T04:41:26.964+02:002011-02-19T04:41:26.964+02:00I am very sorry to hear that a mob attacked Ms. Lo...I am very sorry to hear that a mob attacked Ms. Logan while she was reporting from Cairo. I hope the attackers are caught.<br /><br />As a western "good looking blond" who has lived and worked in Cairo and speaks Arabic, I have experienced the usual daily cat calls and sexual comments from men in the streets of Cairo along with the rare 'accidental' physical groping. Most of this harassment, while annoying, is fairly innocent. (ya 'qamr, ya asl, ya 'ishta, ya sukr). What happened to Ms. Logan goes beyond anything I ever saw. It sounds like typical soccer hooligan behavior that develops in a mob environment, not the typical sexual harassment in Egypt. This sounds like an urban inner-city problem that we are very familiar with in the West.<br /><br />It is absolutely wrong to ascribe this incident to the religion of Islam or the 'Arab mentality'. In the villages of Egypt, where I traveled on business, and which are far less westernized than Cairo, I never experienced a single sexual comment or cat call in the streets. It is all but impossible to imagine this incident occurring in any Egyptian village I saw. In fact, Arab culture may be a big deterrent as it would involve(haq arab)for the transgressor with the host of the female guest.<br /><br />I must say that every time I was being bothered by a jerk on the street, there were many more Egyptian men nearby who intervened on my behalf and apologized to me. I have always felt very safe in Cairo, day or night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-61622236978327997672011-02-19T00:41:47.095+02:002011-02-19T00:41:47.095+02:00Saying that Egyptian culture, and Muslim culture i...Saying that Egyptian culture, and Muslim culture in general is not misogynistic and violent is like saying America is not a country of overweight capitalists. Not the most endearing character traits, but the truth nonetheless. The first step to moving past and growing is admitting and acceptance. A sexual assault like this definitely would not have happened in America, our police are too effective and our citizens are good samaritans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1088856342190945012011-02-18T07:45:18.317+02:002011-02-18T07:45:18.317+02:00The saddest thing is that this whole situation cou...The saddest thing is that this whole situation could have been avoided if CBS has taken some precautions: http://morningquickie.com/2011/02/18/why-lara-logan-raped-female-reporter-safety/Morning Quickiehttp://morningquickie.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-69543385827672539012011-02-18T06:24:02.710+02:002011-02-18T06:24:02.710+02:00Am I the only one who remembers a very similar inc...Am I the only one who remembers a very similar incident involving a couple of young Egyptian women in Tahrir Square during Eid holidays a couple of years ago? And that they were only rescued by some storekeepers who hid them inside, crying and naked? There is no point in pretending that there is not an incredible amount of sexual harassment on the street in Cairo everyday of young and old women, of foreign and Egyptian women, and of women dressed in every way -- short skirts, headscarves and niqab alike. And that plenty of Egyptians, male and female, find it appalling. It is a daily reality for women in Egypt hat should be discussed forthrightly, just as Zeinobia has done here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-33906922471161031262011-02-18T02:11:09.538+02:002011-02-18T02:11:09.538+02:00Good for the strong Egyptian women that intervened...Good for the strong Egyptian women that intervened and assisted Ms. Logan. Shame on the weak men that took part in the crime. How "manly" is it to take part in a gang assault on a woman? How "manly" is it to stand by and let it happen? It's truly barbaric and dog like behavior that reflect very badly on Egyptians. Though in truth, these things can and do happen EVERYWHERE the timing on this is bad for the Egyptians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com