tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post4705070044932335803..comments2024-03-23T00:46:27.084+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: GCC To include Jordan and Morocco : The neo Royal Baghdad Pact !!!Zeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-91207572202282766242011-11-29T20:03:51.398+02:002011-11-29T20:03:51.398+02:00What's in it for Morocco and Jordan if they jo...What's in it for Morocco and Jordan if they join? Will they be full members? I think NOT! Will Moroccans and Jordanians roam freely in and out of these GCC countries? I think NOT!<br /><br />This, if it happens at all, will be a membership with many conditions. The GCC countries are mostly looking for the military "mighty" so to speak of these two monarchies-compared to their own militaries- to defend them if any trouble should arise. Apart from that, I don't think that the majority of the people in the GCC countries do like Jordanians nor do they like Moroccans.<br /><br />This is a political move rather than anything else. If it's not going to benefit the people of the two monarchies, why bother?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-83526789590101325872011-10-15T10:44:10.363+02:002011-10-15T10:44:10.363+02:00Egypt and Egyptians should concentrate on their me...Egypt and Egyptians should concentrate on their mess and leave Morocco alone. When you do as well as we do in many regards, and maybe a comparison between Morocco and Egypt would be useful as to their actual achievements in development and economic matters, then you can allow yourselves to critique or give us advice's on our strategical options. Until then, its better to keep quiet. I have to say that I find your post to be quite misguided to say the least, really, please, concentrate on putting your house in order before getting nosy about other people's stuff.Lone Sloanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11716119007421706035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-67467732432281054512011-09-20T15:48:27.239+02:002011-09-20T15:48:27.239+02:00I am a Gulf national and people in the Gulf are no...I am a Gulf national and people in the Gulf are not clear about this membership. We ask each other many questions like why Morocco and Jordan? What is common besides them being kingdoms too? They will definately benefit from us financially but " what is in it for us?". I anticipate problems. If what the others have said is true - using Jordanian and Moroccon men for military purposes - then that is so self-centred and derived purely from fear. I am ashamed. As a Gulf national, I think our kings are also afraid that one day their people could ask them to leave...who would they resort to then? Local soldiers? For how long will they torture and kill their own brothers and sisters?! See what happened in Egypt...the military joined hands with their fellow brothers. We love each other here in the GCC area and the little misunderstandings we have are like sibling rivalry. These troops will be used against us to protect the royal families...So I am totally against this invitation or acceptance. Many Gulf nationals are pessimistic about this all and see no benefit in it. There was no consideration for the Gulf people...we were not asked or even told before the others outside the GCC area. In addition, he GCC hasn't reached to a level of maturity and success to start asking other nations to join in. There are so many pending projects that were promised decades ago and we haven't seen anything until this day. I really think we should focus on how to strengthen our relationships, solve our own problems internally, even further improve our economies (we have unemployment and poverty just like others), boost the higher education sector, focus on developing the Gulf national for a more challenging future. This is how i see the whole matter. But at the end, let us all wait to hear what the officials will say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-18829451441827745902011-09-15T21:50:02.613+02:002011-09-15T21:50:02.613+02:00THE BLESSING OF ANY COUNTRY COMES FROM ALLAH, GCC ...THE BLESSING OF ANY COUNTRY COMES FROM ALLAH, GCC COUNTRIES ARE WELL OFF AND ARE MANAGING THEIR COUNTRIES MUCH BETTER THAN ANY COUNTRIES IN THE ARAB WORLD, MOROCCO AND JORDAN WILL CERTAIN LEARN FROM DUBAI AND SAUDI EXPERIENCE IN PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND FINANCE. i AM ALL FOR THIS EXCELLENT ALLIANCE. MAY ALLAH UNIT THIS UMAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-44885713985946684432011-09-02T04:22:28.716+02:002011-09-02T04:22:28.716+02:00first of all, i can see a kind of envious attitude...first of all, i can see a kind of envious attitude in the text above, the one who wrote seems to hate morocco and jordan.<br />please stop saying (...shami lalmaghribi) moroccans don't care if you think that you are better than them even though you are not,<br />the only reason why morocco and jordan joined GCC is that they are all kingdoms, simple as that :)<br />please have some respect and stop acting like a fool racist. if your country joined GCC, you would be happy, isn't it. so stop showing that kind of envy words. thanks<br />Moroccan and proudAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-72035521779823676012011-06-30T18:55:40.619+02:002011-06-30T18:55:40.619+02:00I second the sentiments of Anonymous.
For better ...I second the sentiments of Anonymous.<br /><br />For better or worse the GCC is actually the most successful and viable grouping of Member States of the Arab League...<br /><br />Yes the GCC is at best rudimentary, not comprising an as yet workable economic or security based union (Saudi intervention in Bahrain notwithstanding)...<br /><br />But kudos to them for thinking outside of the box.<br /><br />What mutually benefitial relations has Egypt managed to forge with Sudan in half a Century..?<br /><br />Sudanese commentatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-27498025502652023512011-06-30T14:44:13.883+02:002011-06-30T14:44:13.883+02:00Countries are arbitrarily defined masses of land w...Countries are arbitrarily defined masses of land with artificial borders (as defined by European explorers). How do we know that Spain and Saudi Arabia are not part of Africa? Is not the land naturally continuous thru the Suez Peninsula? Is not Eurasia a continent that contains Europe and Asia? If the definition of continent bypasses continuity of land, does not Saudi Arabia have more in common with Morocco than it does with China? <br /><br />On the other hand, is not the USA a member of NATO despite its different continental presence? The new proposed GCC is mainly a political alliance for whatever common reasons there might be, much like the EU includes Greece but excludes Russia. As the French President stated, Europe has its political borders. The economic and social aspect is secondary. <br /><br />Integration might be hard in the short run as is the case with Greece, but it could be feasible over the long haul.<br /><br />Regardless what the reasons currently are,it will eventually lead to a greater Arab Alliance out of necessity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-4252018065344386462011-06-12T00:36:01.454+02:002011-06-12T00:36:01.454+02:00As a Moroccan, I wouldn't like to be part of G...As a Moroccan, I wouldn't like to be part of GCC. We are more close to Europe in distance, culture, orientations and future expectations. <br />We were invited to GCC, we didn't put any requests.<br /><br />We look higher and the gulf countries aren't in the horizon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-86552759266690904852011-06-02T11:37:39.124+02:002011-06-02T11:37:39.124+02:00You sound so negative about this membership and ob...You sound so negative about this membership and obviously against it! Your argument of geographical separation is weak and naive. Are you by any chance jealous for your own country?<br />And besides, what's wrong with a monarchy if the leaders in kingdoms achieve concrete results for their people and if there is massive support for these kings, as is the case in Morocco, for exaple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-69527885283089078742011-05-21T22:47:40.845+02:002011-05-21T22:47:40.845+02:00What if the taxi driver has a Cessna license?What if the taxi driver has a Cessna license?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-4824901255435621442011-05-21T17:30:29.430+02:002011-05-21T17:30:29.430+02:00Well as we all know that the gulf countries have p...Well as we all know that the gulf countries have poor armies.As we speak,some gulf countries get their army/police training from Jordan and the Jordanians get their trainings from england.it has one of the best army in the Arab world. Morocco also has a good and strong army.for Morocco and Jordan to join it will boost its economy and their people will stop complaining.in return they will boost the Gulf security.the Moroccan army would help on the Saudi Yamani border and the Jordanian army would keep Syria and south Lebanon away from the gulf cause we all know they get support from Iran.also Jordan has very good relations with almost everybody and they are always neutral.so that may help in the Iranian gulf problems over land and more.in conclusion never form an opinion without knowing what are u talking about.it is like asking a taxi driver to talk about how to fly planes.and no you are not special.PeaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-85636559306848833322011-05-20T16:50:47.512+02:002011-05-20T16:50:47.512+02:00Will Libya be next ? It has a gulf, the Gulf of S...Will Libya be next ? It has a gulf, the Gulf of Sidra so the only thing to do is looking for a king. A grandson of King Idris ?Cyrenaicusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-15227071694930508852011-05-17T22:37:03.767+02:002011-05-17T22:37:03.767+02:00Arab union starts with the GCC?? an exculsive club...Arab union starts with the GCC?? an exculsive club to cultureless oil-rich slave-labouring monarchies? Nasser is turning in his grave.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-45789919168546933442011-05-17T20:00:05.586+02:002011-05-17T20:00:05.586+02:00im a moroccan and happy to be part of gcc coz this...im a moroccan and happy to be part of gcc coz this is just a beginig of arabs union and u will know in the futur egypt will joing tunis and libye and yemen and algerie and mouritanie .we will be one strong familly and do not forgot that we are arabs all of us we are from one father and we are muslims <br />best regards ,<br />abdelmalek belghitiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-69342377512673286392011-05-13T20:20:13.016+02:002011-05-13T20:20:13.016+02:00The monarchs are scared, revolution "threats&...The monarchs are scared, revolution "threats" shocked them & they want to make sure they remind the people whos boss. Iran is no where near innocent but dont blame it when tiny bahrain naturalized enough persians to become the majority. Gcc accepts when its necessary. Desperate times call 4 desperate measures. Jordan & morocco have relations with israel but gulf doesnt. If this happens does it mean gcc oil puppets & "moderate" arab regimes would be "potected" & improved by the US to neutralize the bad ones? Another US advantage is weakening iran infuence, politically militarilly & economically.johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-9188566888022275412011-05-12T18:27:07.357+02:002011-05-12T18:27:07.357+02:00"What brought the Moroccan to the Shami?"..."What brought the Moroccan to the Shami?"<br /><br />Are Moroccans not generous or something...I don't get that proverb.<br /><br />Morocco should be landing on its ONLY road to prosperity by focusing on Maghreb Union integration and achieving democracy. Membership of the GCC? We have to turn away from such farfetchedness, such a proposition is not based on reason or anyone's interests. Do the Gulf countries imagine Moroccan soldiers putting down their domestic revolutionary protests--should they occur? I think the Gulf people should protest against this devious conspiracy. The Gulf is the only Arab region that matters to Morocco--the others offer us absolutely and categorically nothing--so it would be sensible to avoid jeopardizing our long-term relationship by assisting governments there in killing protesters, lest we turn future Gulf regimes against us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-28632552154005273092011-05-12T17:17:15.750+02:002011-05-12T17:17:15.750+02:00the gcc who invite morocco cuz they r afraid from ...the gcc who invite morocco cuz they r afraid from iran an morocco have problem with iran so the same view and dont forget that morocco is the only country in whole arab world that has an adavanced statut with europeen union so its the bridge of all the arabic worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-47036236631596566112011-05-12T16:45:38.483+02:002011-05-12T16:45:38.483+02:00pirooz - Sudan's civil war started in 1955, on...pirooz - Sudan's civil war started in 1955, one year before independence - get real - Egypt is in no position to make moral judgements re: Sudan's crises, all it cares about are its food and water interests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-27447825363903831252011-05-12T13:46:56.616+02:002011-05-12T13:46:56.616+02:00Well, considering Bashir & Turabi removed 2mil...Well, considering Bashir & Turabi removed 2million from their homes and burned their villages I don't know what there is to like.<br />This is ongoing and endless. Step1 -removal. Step2- slow death.<br />To the Morroccan: Morrocco has people- much more valuable than oil. I know it doesn't seem like that some times.pirooznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-34414492808884093302011-05-12T05:44:04.065+02:002011-05-12T05:44:04.065+02:00honestly this doesn't make sense
in fact it...honestly this doesn't make sense<br />in fact it's a joke<br />i thought countries go forward and improve the situation , not the other way around<br />Morocco has nothing to offer to the arabs except his problems<br />i mean a lot of problems<br />i am from Morocco and i think the arabs made a big mistake<br />it's like surffing in the net without antivirus<br />Morocco is full of gangstersm theifs, it's world first exporter of hashihs and jobless people and many bad things for the arabsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-64559730978267016652011-05-11T22:15:08.423+02:002011-05-11T22:15:08.423+02:00The GCC is not a model for anything useful. It is ...The GCC is not a model for anything useful. It is a club of families with large farms and few millions of livestock. If the GCC was sincere about pan-Arab cooperation, they should have opened up to Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Yemen then think about Morocco. Moroccans have lot more in common with Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans and Mauritanians and Egyptians than we do with the GCC. The GCC people are our brothers and we love them but I am very skeptical about the ruling families’ intensions.<br />In the 80’s they pushed Hassan II to send troops to Iraq to defend the eastern front of the “Arab nation”, most of these troops stayed in Iraq and became part of the Iraqi army. In the 90’s again the GCC asked Morocco to send troops to defend KSA from Iraq. We ended-up having Moroccan troops on both sides shooting at each other which was very sad and ironic. We refuse to be used as sand bags for ANYBODY. Leave us alone and we will be just fine.Kamalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278886632059830962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-9926140451999537452011-05-11T22:04:59.287+02:002011-05-11T22:04:59.287+02:00"These are actually the only monarchies in th..."These are actually the only monarchies in the Arab world now. "<br />you forgot Syria but that will soon change HAHAHA fuck Saudi Arabia and those gulf bastards, after Libya gets rid of the moron and Algeria joins the club, the NAU (North African Union) will bomb those stupid "countries" back in oblivion where they belong, let them drown in their stinky oil.Kingdom of the Stupid and Arroganthttp://ksa.com.sanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-18197142678221687692011-05-11T21:53:36.143+02:002011-05-11T21:53:36.143+02:00Morocco member of the GCC?... LOL.
I am a Moroccan...Morocco member of the GCC?... LOL.<br />I am a Moroccan and I was not aware that Morocco had ever requested to be a member of the GCC. I was under the impression that the GCC club was exclusive to those with oil and money. This cannot be good news for the people of Morocco. It will be a disaster; the GCC is full of corrupt and anti-democracy regimes. What made them think of us? <br />Just so that the Emirs in KSA and UAE we are 35 millions you will need to have a 2 millions troop to be able to control our people, we are not Bahrain.Kamalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278886632059830962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-84736483022586567022011-05-11T21:01:18.586+02:002011-05-11T21:01:18.586+02:00pirooz - doesn't Egypt also like Bashir...?
wh...pirooz - doesn't Egypt also like Bashir...?<br />what do you think about that??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-179047530940578342011-05-11T17:18:08.786+02:002011-05-11T17:18:08.786+02:00@Nour , it is very famous proverb.
@M , I though...@Nour , it is very famous proverb. <br /><br />@M , I though the League of Arab states is doing this job already !?Zeinobiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.com