tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post4809779596400014542..comments2024-03-23T00:46:27.084+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: Osama Bin Laden is officially deadZeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-30421640622669794152011-05-05T21:50:10.415+02:002011-05-05T21:50:10.415+02:00@schnellinger, facts are facts, sorry you don'...@schnellinger, facts are facts, sorry you don't like them.<br /><br />@Hazem, DNA can distinguish between him and a son, but I also would prefer the picture to be released. Not because I need convincing that he's dead, but so I can wear it on a T-shirt.<br /><br />@Alice, cool story sis. Be glad it's not up to me, because I'd throw your terrorist-supporting ass in Gitmo.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-52113237054584001732011-05-05T03:25:58.389+02:002011-05-05T03:25:58.389+02:00Jason said "America has had oodles of Nobel ...Jason said "America has had oodles of Nobel Laureate scientists, while Egypt has had only Ahmed Zewail. America's average IQ is fifteen points above Egypt's. America has 99% literacy, Egypt 66%. Yes, Alice, on average, Americans are more intelligent and better-informed."<br /><br />Okay, there's the proof that "Jason" is just a dumbfucked american biological rascist, who fits better in the staff of Josef Mengele than on an intelligent blog. You make me puke.Schnellingerhttp://www.zeit.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-72815783326962057892011-05-04T19:48:48.278+02:002011-05-04T19:48:48.278+02:00@Jason, Its official now, the white house will not...@Jason, Its official now, the white house will not release BinLaden's pictures. So with his body is disposed in the sea, there is no way to be certain of his true identity except for the DNA analysis which could be positive if the killed person was one of his sons.<br />I smell something fishy here.Hazemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-57826946843756646282011-05-04T19:47:40.131+02:002011-05-04T19:47:40.131+02:00Bush alone was responsible for the coldblooded mur...Bush alone was responsible for the coldblooded murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan.<br /><br />In response to a question about the crippling sanctions the US imposed against Iraq, Madeleine Albright told an interviewer on the American current affairs show "60 Minutes" that the consequent death of 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it".<br /><br />Remember McCain's funny song, "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"?<br /><br />Most of your leaders and aspiring leaders show themselves to be sociopaths who think nothing of blowing hundreds or thousands or even millions of foreign civilians to smithereens. In fact, many of them have. Three million dead in Vietnam alone, not to mention all the millions killed by your country since then.<br /><br />But your leaders are not terrorist masterminds, of course! In fact, they're the ones who get to decide who is a terrorist, and then take matters into their own hands as judge, jury and executioner. Because they say so. Just like you accuse Bin Laden of doing. Funny how that works, eh?<br /><br />Bin Laden, no matter what he did, was relatively small potatoes compared to your own terrorist masterminds, with their "shock and awe" and "Daisy Cutters" and phosphorous bombs and napalm, etc., etc.<br /><br />Yet you defend and justify their crimes, like so many brainwashed and morally stunted Americans.<br /><br />But my favorite is this gem of lofty moral wisdom from you: When America, as usual, ignores international norms of justice and commits coldblooded murder, "that shows the moral bankruptcy of international law."<br /><br />Of course it does. You're a moron, Jason. A willfully ignorant, smug and self-deluded one, too. The most annoying and despicable kind.Alicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-16446486679649191592011-05-04T16:55:22.351+02:002011-05-04T16:55:22.351+02:00@saurabhgoswami, "Osama Bin Laden was ALREADY...@saurabhgoswami, "<em>Osama Bin Laden was ALREADY DEAD</em>" You're joking, right? I visited your website. You cite some speculative outdated stories, but appear unaware that the Navy Seals just blew his brains out in Abbottabad. <a href="http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=bin+laden+dead" rel="nofollow">I can give you some current citations.</a>Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-57581804370308658352011-05-04T16:42:52.645+02:002011-05-04T16:42:52.645+02:00@Alice, It's hilarious that your sources are (...@Alice, It's hilarious that your sources are (1) Kooky leftist conspiracy site Dissident Voice, and (2) your friend who "watches the tv news for hours every day". <br /><br />More, please! I have tears of mirth streaming down my face. 8:::)Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-10450471311248815162011-05-04T13:55:46.494+02:002011-05-04T13:55:46.494+02:00@Z "Yes Bin Laden was a terrorist who caused ...@Z "<em>Yes Bin Laden was a terrorist who caused the death of thousands across the world</em>" It's a relief to hear you say that.<br /><br />I agree with Tony that "<em>no matter what America did or did not do concerning Osama Bin Laden would not have made any difference in the fact that there would always ... ALWAYS ... be some sort of negative Arab/Muslim backlash and condemnation of the action or inaction.</em>" But I disagree with his pacifist moral equivalence blather. The right way to stop the "senseless and endless cycle of killing, hatred, and retribution" is to kill Al Qaeda and their supporters in such numbers that any left alive are too terrified to act.<br /><br />I agree with Zeinobia, and with the Arab and Muslim world, that under international law bin Laden was entitled to be taken alive and put on trial. That shows the moral bankruptcy of international law in this case.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-30166553353445017452011-05-04T13:54:37.614+02:002011-05-04T13:54:37.614+02:00Hi Zeinobia, I'm not sure whether I already po...Hi Zeinobia, I'm not sure whether I already posted the post immediately following this one. If you are censoring it, can you please explain why so I can modify it and make it acceptable? There is nothing profane or in contravention of your rules against criticizing religions etc. as far as I can tell. Thanks! And thanks for hosting this spirited debate.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-927511977306732182011-05-04T12:21:04.900+02:002011-05-04T12:21:04.900+02:00Osama Bin Laden was ALREADY DEAD http://srggos.tk/...Osama Bin Laden was ALREADY DEAD http://srggos.tk/hAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-38895175478873117062011-05-04T09:06:26.875+02:002011-05-04T09:06:26.875+02:00Jason, I'm sorry for you, it must be weird to ...Jason, I'm sorry for you, it must be weird to be so ignorant even about your own country. The only other possible way you could deny that these are all beliefs shared by a substantial proportion of the American population, is if you were dishonest, rather than just hopelessly uninformed and stupid.<br /><br />Although I can amply document everything I said, the comments section isn't the right place for it. You can always do a quick web search. I'd suggest you take a break from "laughing and jeering" to do just that, but then you might have to face some uncomfortable truths about your country and how your fellow Americans consistently prefer to believe asinine lies than to prevent the coldblooded murder of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of innocent people.<br /><br />Here's one sample of the kind of thing you might find:<br /><br />"When the intelligence community was unable to establish Iraq-al-Qaeda links of any significance, Wolfowitz appointed neocons Abram Shulsky and Douglas Feith to set up an “Office of Special Plans” (OFP) in the Pentagon to circumvent the intelligence professionals and manufacture evidence for Iraq-al-Qaeda ties, and for weapons of mass destruction. Virtually all the assertions they came up with (drones capable of delivering WMDs, mobile chemical weapons labs, al-Qaeda flight training center, Niger uranium purchase [which one former intelligence official attributes to neocon Michael Ledeen], sponsorship of the Islamist terrorist al-Zarqawi, etc.) were subsequently discredited. They were manufactured lies allowing Bush (in September 2002) to declare, “You can’t distinguish between al-Qaeda and Saddam.”<br /><br />...<br /><br />Maybe the best example of the bullshit was neocon Richard Perle’s baseless statement to an Italian journalist in 2002 that 9-11 hijacker “Mohammed Atta met Saddam Hussein in Baghdad prior to September 11. We have proof of that, and we are sure he wasn’t just there for a holiday. The meeting is one of the motives of an American attack on Iraq.” "<br /><br />http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/09/the-%E2%80%9Cright-thing%E2%80%9D-in-iraq/<br /><br />As for America and its "free press", funny you should mention it. I was just on the phone with a close friend who lives in the States, and I kept referring to things she didn't know, even though she watches the tv news for hours every day.<br /><br />I said to her, "Well, you know here in Egypt, we have access to a huge variety of sources for our tv news: everything from Al Jazeera, BBC World, CNN, PressTV, Al Manar, FOX, France24 and TV5, Russia Today, local Egyptian state and independent channels, Libyan TV, the Palestinian channels, the Israeli channels, etc., etc. Most are available in Arabic or English. Each is biased, but you can check out both sides of every story. In the States, you mostly have American tv, with one story and one side of the story."<br /><br />She was quiet a moment and then she said, "We don't 'mostly' have American TV, we ONLY have American tv, and most of it is sound-bites, infotainment crap and celebrity 'news'!" You don't have a free press, you have a monopoly of media ownership by a handful of fanatic Zionist billionaires like Rupert Murdoch and the Suzberger family, to name only a couple. I challenge you to name one owner or director of a large media conglomerate who is not. Just one.<br /><br />No wonder Americans are so dumb, and so confident they know all there is to know that they laugh and jeer when they're confronted with their own ignorance.<br /><br />Thank you for illustrating my point.Alicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-55989587445239170692011-05-04T02:37:30.079+02:002011-05-04T02:37:30.079+02:00J'lem imam: Obama will soon hang. Al-Aqsa Mosq...J'lem imam: <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4064183,00.html" rel="nofollow">Obama will soon hang</a>. Al-Aqsa Mosque imam vows to avenge killing of Osama bin Laden in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrp9007dcf8" rel="nofollow">Youtube video</a> in Arabic, no subtitles yet, but maybe MEMRI will translate it. '<em>Dogs should not rejoice too much for killing lions</em>.'<br /><br />This beardy bloke may soon be mysteriously martyred ;)Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-23741539202716625812011-05-04T01:14:09.105+02:002011-05-04T01:14:09.105+02:00@Ahmed, you say releasing photos of his corpse wil...@Ahmed, you say releasing photos of his corpse will glorify him and perpetuate sympathy for his ostensible martyrdom. I don't think so. The pictures of dead Saddam, Uday and Qusay didn't greatly raise their status. They had the effect of dispiriting the Baathist remnants. Jihadists say they want martyrdom, but there's an old saying, "Everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die." The gruesome pics will emphasize the <em>death</em> side of the equation and discourage recruitment. Anyway, not releasing them would play into the hand of conspiracy theorists like Alice.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-51541792761556296532011-05-04T00:56:20.353+02:002011-05-04T00:56:20.353+02:00@Alice, the crazy-pearls you spout make Damien Tho...@Alice, the crazy-pearls you spout make Damien Thompson's point exactly. Just to give a few examples:<br /><br />(1) You appear to think that "Saddam Hussein planned 9/11 with Osama bin Laden and was minutes away from nuking Chicago back in 2003" is a widespread belief. It isn't. I've never heard anyone suggest it except you.<br /><br />(2) You appear to think there's some doubt about whether Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. There isn't. Colin Powel has nothing to do with the truth or falsity of the assertion.<br /><br />(3) You refer to so-called "massive inconsistencies and holes in the official story of 9/11". I love this! Thanks for the opportunity to jeer and laugh at your expense.<br /><br />(4) If you think that Hollywood encourages mass murder of Arabs and Muslims, you missed your Thorazine.<br /><br />(5) You are morbidly preoccupied with imaginary Zionist plots.<br /><br />(6) You appear to think that Americans think Muslims worship Satan. Any American can tell you that Muslims worship Allah swt, should the question come up in Trivial Pursuit.<br /><br />You speak sarcastically of "intelligent and well-informed Americans". Unlike Egypt, America has always had a free press. America has had oodles of Nobel Laureate scientists, while Egypt has had only Ahmed Zewail. America's average IQ is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations" rel="nofollow">fifteen points</a> above Egypt's. America has 99% <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate" rel="nofollow">literacy</a>, Egypt 66%. Yes, Alice, on average, Americans are more intelligent and better-informed.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-43716352840503237952011-05-04T00:35:41.244+02:002011-05-04T00:35:41.244+02:00LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! HAHAHAHA. Kbye.LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! HAHAHAHA. Kbye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-32329594977556318152011-05-04T00:04:11.767+02:002011-05-04T00:04:11.767+02:00@Jason
Releasing photos of his dead corpse will on...@Jason<br />Releasing photos of his dead corpse will only further glorify him and perpetuate sympathies for "Osama the Marytr"Ahmednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-74197899221505298572011-05-03T22:57:50.246+02:002011-05-03T22:57:50.246+02:00haha. Don’t Worry: Osama Was Shot in Accordance wi...haha. <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/dont-worry-osama-was-shot-in-accordance-with-islamic-tradition/" rel="nofollow">Don’t Worry: Osama Was Shot in Accordance with Islamic Tradition</a>. "<em>the most important thing to us is showing religious respect. We didn’t like how Osama was responsible for murdering thousands of innocent men, women, and children, but that was just one aspect of the man. Another aspect was that he was a Muslim — and that was a good part of him that we greatly respect. Because Islam is a great religion. Really great. Personally, I don’t practice it, but others do, and they really seem to like it. So, while we didn’t like the terrorist side of Osama, I think everyone understands that we still need to celebrate the Muslim side of him and give it the respect it deserves.</em>"Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-43931505537916009922011-05-03T22:47:50.008+02:002011-05-03T22:47:50.008+02:00@DJ
the usual scene that we see on our screens is ...@DJ<br />the usual scene that we see on our screens is Muslims dancing once Americans are murdered (by Muslims). Now the picture is reversed and you know what? IT JUST FEELS GREAT! <br />Fair trial? Not required. OBL boasted about his terrorist crimes all the time. So what do you want to trial him for? Execution is the verdict and so it was done and hopefully will be done to each and everyone who is a follower.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-58888837407410576842011-05-03T22:26:15.514+02:002011-05-03T22:26:15.514+02:00Jason quoted: "The Islamic world is amazingly...Jason quoted: "The Islamic world is amazingly receptive to what I call “counterknowledge”.<br /><br />I suppose you mean "counterknowledge", as opposed to "knowledge" that there really were WMDs being manufactured in mobile laboratories in Iraq, that Saddam Hussein planned 9/11 with Osama bin Laden and was minutes away from nuking Chicago back in 2003, necessitating an immediate and devastating invasion.<br /><br />That the "irrefutable proof" of Bin Laden's responsibility for 9/11 which Colin Powell promised he would present to the world, got lost in the mail and that's why 10 years later, nobody's seen it.<br /><br />That Ariel Sharon was a "man of peace".<br /><br />That Barack Obama is a communist and/or a SECRET MUSLIM.<br /><br />That the Zionist lobby in the US is just another lobby, and that Chaim Saban and his fellows are just American patriots.<br /><br />That the US invaded Afghanistan to liberate Afghani women and to set up a democracy there.<br /><br />That the Palestinians should trust the US to be an "honest broker" between them and Israel.<br /><br />That the US government conducted a thorough and independent investigation of 9/11 and that Bush's first choice to lead it, Henry Kissinger, was selected for his impeccable integrity and commitment to the truth. <br /><br />That even bothering to look at the massive inconsistencies and holes in the official story of 9/11 means that one is a "fascist". It is "progressive" not to question what the government tells you, even when its official statements contradict each other or describe things that are physically impossible or do not jibe with the actual evidence.<br /><br />That America is a force for good in the world and respects international law and human rights.<br /><br />That Hollywood movies and television do not consistently propagate outrageously racist and ignorant portrayals of Arabs and Muslims and justify mass murder against Arab and Muslim people.<br /> <br />That the "War on Terror" is all about "fighting terrorism" and has nothing to do with destroying Arab and Muslim nations and grabbing their resources or serving Zionist ambitions.<br /><br />That the people kidnapped in Afghanistan and transported to secret CIA prisons where they were tortured for years, some to death, were all, or mostly, or partly terrorists.<br /><br />I could go on and on about all the things we Arabs are too "cultic" to believe, unlike the intelligent and well-informed Americans (especially those who are eager for more wars because they will precipitate the Rapture).<br /><br />I'd also be interested to compare the readership of the Protocols in the US vs that in the Arab world, if you have the figures, as well as the statistics about how many Americans believe Muslims worship Satan and practise terrorism as a religious obligation.Alicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-2054327345927612492011-05-03T18:49:01.773+02:002011-05-03T18:49:01.773+02:00Osama bin Laden dead – but no body. Now for an exp...<a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100085976/osama-bin-laden-dead-now-for-an-explosion-of-conspiracy-theories/" rel="nofollow">Osama bin Laden dead – but no body. Now for an explosion of conspiracy theories</a> has this spot-on quote from Damien Thompson:<br /><br />"The Islamic world is amazingly receptive to what I call “counterknowledge”. Let’s start by reminding ourselves that <em>most</em> people in Muslim countries have their doubts about 9/11, and millions of them believe unquestioningly that it was plotted by the CIA. One of the most important features of what sociologists call the cultic milieu is that political and religious extremists happily exchange conspiracy theories, irrespective of their origin. We’ve seen this in the popularity of the far-Right Russian <em>Protocols of the Elders of Zion</em> in the Arab world. We’ve also seen young, Left-wing disciples of Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore happily draw on 9/11 “truther” theories constructed in the American fascist underground."Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-75845353607293237172011-05-03T18:35:44.206+02:002011-05-03T18:35:44.206+02:00OK Z, on Egyptian movie preferences you know bette...OK Z, on Egyptian movie preferences you know better than me.<br /><br />@Anonymous "<em>OBL is a diversion from the real perpetrators behind 911.</em>" And who might they be? [<a href="http://paradoxdgn.com/junk/viewing/avatars/trollface.jpg/" rel="nofollow">trollface.jpg</a>]<br /><br />@Ahmed, Why shouldn't USA release photos?Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-34213783113791972912011-05-03T17:13:57.863+02:002011-05-03T17:13:57.863+02:00If the US understand anything at all they should N...If the US understand anything at all they should NOT release any photos.Ahmednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-20829578246506126882011-05-03T17:11:06.943+02:002011-05-03T17:11:06.943+02:00@Jason , we do not watch Bollywood films and they ...@Jason , we do not watch Bollywood films and they are not popular anymore in Egypt and most Arab countries,it is popular in the Gulf due to the fact there is a large Indian population there.Indian films are usually mocked in the region<br />The only Indian film that made to our cinemas is My Name is Khan , this shows the level of films we are speaking about here , cheap Bollywood films got no influence what so everZeinobiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-28738612546207610202011-05-03T16:43:17.563+02:002011-05-03T16:43:17.563+02:00Good 5 minute video: Bollywood vs. Bin Laden: Why ...Good 5 minute video: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-1JUcKpHro" rel="nofollow">Bollywood vs. Bin Laden: Why radical Islam fears pop culture</a>Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-967837592147879382011-05-03T16:29:44.474+02:002011-05-03T16:29:44.474+02:00Breaking news: Drudge Report says death photo fort...Breaking news: Drudge Report says death photo forthcoming.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-24042104325709369412011-05-03T15:54:49.251+02:002011-05-03T15:54:49.251+02:00OBL is a diversion from the real perpetrators behi...OBL is a diversion from the real perpetrators behind 911. More than 100 people knew building 7 will collapse hours before it happened. Search building 7 & 911 for yourself. Repeating the lies and controlling the media, in spite of zillion of errors, and omissions and inconsistencies make them believable to the masses.<br /><br />The tightly controlled US media is designed to create, per Alice,' the dumbest, most gullible people on earth'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com