tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post4862106028905448308..comments2024-03-23T00:46:27.084+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: Imbaba on Fire "Updated"Zeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-79973499429022383492011-05-21T01:51:02.616+02:002011-05-21T01:51:02.616+02:00In support of Anonymous's advice "beware ...In support of <strong>Anonymous</strong>'s advice "<em>beware that you don't start persecuting Mexicans from south of your own border (you are, by the way, occupying their lands)</em>", my attention is drawn to <a href="http://bigpeace.com/dfriedman/2011/05/20/netanyahu-urges-u-s-return-to-1845-borders/" rel="nofollow">Netanyahu Urges U.S. Return To 1845 Borders</a>.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-34414935897694650332011-05-14T03:51:38.091+02:002011-05-14T03:51:38.091+02:00America like all nations has done wrong things, bu...America like all nations has done wrong things, but occupying Mexican lands isn't one of them. That's a crazy-pearl. If it's widely believed by Egyptians, then Egyptian opinions about Israeli-Arab land-occupation disagreements should be judged in that context.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-78129476090916525392011-05-14T02:03:23.637+02:002011-05-14T02:03:23.637+02:00To the Kats and Jasons - You are quick to advise o...To the Kats and Jasons - You are quick to advise others on the other side of the oceans. When referring to "people who live in glass houses" you should look in the mirror; beware that you don't start persecuting Mexicans from south of your own border (you are, by the way, occupying their lands).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-21478768632318074532011-05-10T23:15:50.520+02:002011-05-10T23:15:50.520+02:00@Ahmed, Thanks for reminding me: The moment when Q...@Ahmed, Thanks for reminding me: The moment when Qardawi's bodyguards took Wael Ghonim off the stage was deeply significant. It gave me a creepy foreboding feeling. Not enough attention was paid and not enough outrage was expressed by Egyptians.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-17285526855350215542011-05-10T22:17:31.739+02:002011-05-10T22:17:31.739+02:00@ Kat
Great post I completely agree with you, Egy...@ Kat <br />Great post I completely agree with you, Egypt will either move backward or not at all if we continue to blame everything on the Zionists or whatever <br /><br />@Jason<br />Exactly!! The moment Wael Ghoinm got kicked off that sound stage in place of Qardawi, it was all gone, as we stand idly by .<br /><br />Yes we'd all like to believe that this is all an elaborate ploy by the counter-revolution, I'm sure it'll make us sleep easy.. but it is true? Absolutely not!! Egyptians are still the problem as soon as we admit this, we'll be on the right road.Ahmednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-74206778234684332592011-05-10T19:45:04.077+02:002011-05-10T19:45:04.077+02:00Why all the racial hatred for rednecks?Why all the racial hatred for rednecks?Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-33948210526151739572011-05-10T18:35:05.932+02:002011-05-10T18:35:05.932+02:00I don't subscribe to the assertion that the se...I don't subscribe to the assertion that the sectarian problems we have in Egypt are caused <br />by a crazy individual or as part of a recent social or political development where a minority previously marginalized suddenly felt that this is the time to seek equality. The Christians in Egypt have never been marginalized no more than those in Iraq or Syria. Sectarian problems have the habit of suddenly showing up in areas where the Arabs dare defy the power that be. For example, Iraq with the kurds, and the two main Islamic factions with its historic background, also in Lebanon with the Muslim/Christians, in Bosnia, in the Sudan, in Bahrain and Syria etc..<br />and if a country had a unified religious background then the divisions would pop out all the sudden based on political factions and which have been stirred up as the case is in Libya and currently Tunisia and of course Pakistan. All these have one thing in common, they all help destabilize the nation. Sectarian division is a golden ticket to brake up a country and divide it in order to claim a stake in its politics, economics and natural resources or all of the above. Egypt is next on the list and the light headed Egyptians have fallen for it as other Arabs did before them, so let us not brand it as a conspiracy theory thus totally discount any internal or external foul play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-41833968788159867872011-05-10T18:28:30.369+02:002011-05-10T18:28:30.369+02:00Anis are you salafi ?
can't kill them quickl...Anis are you salafi ?<br /> can't kill them quickly and take women once and for all, you guys pushing oil prices up all over :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-40849662783678154692011-05-10T15:30:09.107+02:002011-05-10T15:30:09.107+02:00What would happen ..... if the Christians burned t...What would happen ..... if the Christians burned the mosque ...???? I think better not even think about it ..... So why can burn the church ??????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-87721383049234146572011-05-10T12:58:16.713+02:002011-05-10T12:58:16.713+02:00Kat, obviously you know zilch about my country. Fi...Kat, obviously you know zilch about my country. First,sectarian problems did not exist in Egypt for centuries, it only began in the Saddat era when he made deals and coalititions with radicals also coinciding with the return of expats who worked in Gulf states with their imported extremism.<br />Second, we are very self-sustained when it comes to oil and we do actually export a little too, we don't need the Gulf's oil and never did.<br />Third..go read some books you ignorant redneck.Anisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-69641727685388855422011-05-10T11:15:00.998+02:002011-05-10T11:15:00.998+02:00So what you want, you got ... unfortunately not re...So what you want, you got ... unfortunately not realizing what it all than it threatens.Tak let's solve the problem! Army not working? Army is now at a crossroads, it is impossible to side with Christians, it is impossible to side with musulman.Civil war here here what you have! "Are you happy?" You wanted it? brainless crowd ..... you are not capable of democracy, the higher the power to introduce to you luchshe.Armiya extremely position and tighten the nut, then you'll understand ..... Have played it's time to order return.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1030685937238986812011-05-10T01:55:19.754+02:002011-05-10T01:55:19.754+02:00@Kat, that was beautifully put. Every word. You sp...@Kat, that was beautifully put. Every word. You speak for me. <br /><br />I want to add one sentiment, which is great sadness that the revolution was the work of Zeinobia and her compatriots. I refer to educated secular democracy-loving Internet-enabled Egyptians. They were the instigators. Their revolution is being stolen by the Ikhwan, Salafists, et al, who sat on their asses until Mubarak resigned.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-2145458702154064312011-05-09T23:56:45.388+02:002011-05-09T23:56:45.388+02:00As an American redneck who firmly supported Egypt&...As an American redneck who firmly supported Egypt's revolution for freedom, I object to the idea that we, who are fighting the grotesque spawn of Egypt's Salaf Quttbists in the form of Al Qaeda are in anyway responsible for or desiring of the rise of Salafis or sectarian violence in Egypt.<br /><br />Especially since these events do, in fact, open the door to such scum as Zawahiri, et al to return and wreak havoc on Egypt. And, just because i am predicting that does not mean I am some part of the greater American/Saudi/Zionist conspiracy to defrock Egypt's revolution. it means that events themselves can conspire to make things happen, people really do not have to do anything at all.<br /><br />These are all conspiracy theories. The sectarian problem in Egypt has existed in Egypt for eons, decades, centuries, what have you. They were not created by Americans although they may have traveled out of Saudi Arabia's apparently greater mission to convert everyone to their extreme conservative version of Islam. <br /><br />May I ask, with all due respect to the person who mentioned it above, where does Egypt get it's oil since it is not exactly a self sustained oil producing state? Whoever lives in glass houses should not throw stones.<br /><br />This is a local problem exacerbated by the apparently successful ploy of some fellow Salafis to stir up their compatriots to act against the church. they may have had outside assistance, but this is likely individuals or groups acting on their own. I know that seems impossible, but once you actually understand that governments really cannot control all the people all the time, you will learn this lesson. A lesson that is abundantly clear since the military and police seem unable to control the Salafis or Imbaba. <br /><br />The revolution broke the great fear of the Egyptian Secret Police being everywhere watching everyone and ready to make them disappear into the prisons. This is what happens. People no longer believe in that lie so they are much freer to act and they are acting as they have always wanted. <br /><br />it may be difficult to accept that since it seems to tarnish the revolution, but it is the truth. the question now is how does the greater part of Egypt and the revolution deal with it? Do not count on the military or police. You broke them, now it is your responsibility to manage the greater society beyond the former police state.<br /><br />Good luck. I am really hoping you actually pull this off.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208095650375780838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-22246130980935725212011-05-09T23:15:52.676+02:002011-05-09T23:15:52.676+02:00Egypt: Situation Deteriorating Badly and Rapidly. ...<a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/barryrubin/2011/05/09/egypt-situation-deteriorating-badly-and-rapidly/" rel="nofollow">Egypt: Situation Deteriorating Badly and Rapidly</a>. "<em>The remaining Christians in most of the Arabic-speaking world may be on the edge of flight or extinction.</em>" says an article by Barry Rubin. On <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/120237/" rel="nofollow">Instapundit</a>, Michael Totten remarks "<em>I’m sorry to say that I’m not surprised. It was fashionable to cheer the downfall of Hosni Mubarak, and I, too, took pleasure in seeing him go, but Egypt is, I think, the least likely of all the Arab countries to emerge from a revolution in decent shape. I know some terrific Egyptians who would build a wonderful country if given the opportunity, but they are outnumbered.</em>"Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-71509521569038494812011-05-08T23:06:43.259+02:002011-05-08T23:06:43.259+02:00Reminds me of Pakistan(another Saudi project) wher...Reminds me of Pakistan(another Saudi project) where anything goes and hunting and killing Christians is the national sport. Kudos, keeping the news interestingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-10437378507636381442011-05-08T23:00:05.325+02:002011-05-08T23:00:05.325+02:00democrazy not for egypt! thinks about it.democrazy not for egypt! thinks about it.free bloggerhttp://www.foodcakerecipes.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-43184799820531705392011-05-08T22:23:44.641+02:002011-05-08T22:23:44.641+02:00We now know what democracyt means for Egypt!We now know what democracyt means for Egypt!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-41399686556807057292011-05-08T22:16:12.265+02:002011-05-08T22:16:12.265+02:00Rumours?? they are funded by Saudis although not d...Rumours?? they are funded by Saudis although not directly linked to Saudi government but funds come from "Islamic" institutions and investment banks in SaudiArabia, some of them have notable amirs(Binturks and Sauds) on their boards. That idiot salafi sheikh Hassan is actually a member of the Baraka group... why don't you do some fact checking first before labelling what is a rumour and what isn't?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-58985948787005784722011-05-08T21:50:05.266+02:002011-05-08T21:50:05.266+02:00US and Saudi: the former provides the latter with ...US and Saudi: the former provides the latter with money and protection, the latter provides the former with oil and legitimacy. In this embrace everybody in between get crushed, but what do they care. The american rednecks and the saudi salafis are just happy with driving around in their big oil-devouring cars, heartlessly shooting people in their way and legitimizing it by accusing normal Muslims and Christians of being infidels and scum. At last there will be no human culture left where it once started. God help us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-49226754331005550672011-05-08T21:07:34.979+02:002011-05-08T21:07:34.979+02:00"There are rumors that the Salafists in Egypt..."There are rumors that the Salafists in Egypt are financially supported by huge sum of money from Saudi Arabia"<br /><br />NO WAY!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-8885403236537230042011-05-08T20:32:11.823+02:002011-05-08T20:32:11.823+02:00These salafist cavemen thugs should be hanged at s...These salafist cavemen thugs should be hanged at sunrise tomorrow.<br />Too many coincidences.<br />Saudis/US/Israelis want Mubarak back.<br />Bahraini lawyer was at the ICC yesterday.<br />PM Sharaf was due in Bahrain today.<br /><br /><br />It's all connected.<br /><br />Your thinking is spot on ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-59061155215868513622011-05-08T20:29:12.783+02:002011-05-08T20:29:12.783+02:00These salafist cavemen should be hanged tomorrow a...These salafist cavemen should be hanged tomorrow at sunriseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-15674797209426762692011-05-08T20:04:00.794+02:002011-05-08T20:04:00.794+02:00'......There are rumors that the Salafists in ...'......There are rumors that the Salafists in Egypt are financially supported by huge sum of money from Saudi Arabia'.<br />You must be joking; Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-52365240772722471732011-05-08T19:43:56.487+02:002011-05-08T19:43:56.487+02:00>when you say "radical christian channel&q...>when you say "radical christian channel" do you mean they are calling for attacks on non-Christians or they don't sing "all is well" when churches are fire-bombed <br /><br />No, she means that they are fringe US Christian channel that spreads sectarian lies (like the one originating from Saudi Arabia that started this hideous bullshit) with goal of spreading religious fundamentalism and sectarianism.<br /><br />Keep in mind that the disgusting Saudi-funded Salafist channels also don't directly call for violence against Christians. They instead spread the sectarian lies and preach the religious fundamentalism that fuel this sectarianism in Egypt.<br /><br />So in that respect, Al-Hayat is exactly like a Salafist channel.<br /><br />I am an Egyptian who is pro-democracy and the rule of law, but I will not give a crap if the Army just rounds up all these Salafist idiots and puts them behind bars for eternity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-16796031859059960772011-05-08T19:17:34.595+02:002011-05-08T19:17:34.595+02:00I believe I've said this before but I'll s...I believe I've said this before but I'll say it again "Wars and revolutions are easy to start. Securing the peace is not so easy."Demeurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01935263659097273535noreply@blogger.com