tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post6080700873127844282..comments2024-03-18T13:13:41.444+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: Another Bad Day for Media in #Egypt : #YouTube , Offensive cartoon and TV hosts to investigationZeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1274518714574211992013-02-11T13:09:38.830+02:002013-02-11T13:09:38.830+02:00excellent one, what could be missing is a boat and...excellent one, what could be missing is a boat and oar on morsi's face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-61961101925155535522013-02-10T20:39:00.607+02:002013-02-10T20:39:00.607+02:00The fellow commentators here above are incorrect. ...The fellow commentators here above are incorrect. It is a difference to show pictures of nude people who have been taken against the pictured persons will and to have a cartoon drawing of naked people. It is pretty obvious to everybody that the bodies of the pictured people do not really look like that (beside the faces). So I think their possibility to file a lawsuit in Europe would be there of course but the suit would not be successfull.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-42402209057927594742013-02-10T17:19:27.315+02:002013-02-10T17:19:27.315+02:00The cover Zeinobia refers to (a) is satirical, (b)...The cover Zeinobia refers to (a) is satirical, (b) concerns public figures and, (c) is political commentary. In the United States it would have complete protection under the law, and in the rest of the civilized world it would have complete protection as a matter of custom if not constitution.<br /><br />I still would like to know if the cover itself was pixellated.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-5759228311565694962013-02-10T16:05:58.165+02:002013-02-10T16:05:58.165+02:00Publication of various types of parody often invol... Publication of various types of parody often involves litigation over libel, slander, and other types of Defamation.<br />Cartoon are parody and if they cause offence can be sued through the courts in the West.<br /><br />Defamation: Any intentional false communication, either written or spoken, that harms a person's reputation; decreases the respect, regard, or confidence in which a person is held; or induces disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against a person.<br /><br />Defamation may be a criminal or civil charge. It encompasses both written statements, known as libel, and spoken statements, called slander.<br /><br />All those in that cartoon have the right to sue the magazine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-73331670487744049252013-02-10T15:55:37.697+02:002013-02-10T15:55:37.697+02:00Clearly you have no idea about what is acceptable ...Clearly you have no idea about what is acceptable and what is libelous in the West.<br /><br />Prince Williams wife Kate not so many months ago managed in court to stop print of her holiday photos of her topless in one of the most liberal of countries FRANCE!<br /><br />They have the laws. It's just whether they choose to use them and take perps to court or not but the laws are there just the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-5677074194393927302013-02-10T15:36:39.839+02:002013-02-10T15:36:39.839+02:00Anonymous: This cartoon might be open for legal ch...Anonymous: This cartoon might be open for legal charges in the UK, but not in the US. UK & US laws differ in this respect. Zeinobia is correct in referring you to the New Yorker cover portfolio, particularly the politically oriented ones, as some of them might be considered quite insulting.vagabondbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15335179461403449587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-86260334557475345372013-02-10T14:38:42.821+02:002013-02-10T14:38:42.821+02:00I think you should check the New Yorker cartoon co...I think you should check the New Yorker cartoon cover portfolio before speaking about freedom of expression in US and West Zeinobiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-71548387804640857482013-02-10T13:52:30.638+02:002013-02-10T13:52:30.638+02:00I think its time for a fatwa against cartoons.I think its time for a fatwa against cartoons.pirooznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-8965595357262465272013-02-10T12:43:27.374+02:002013-02-10T12:43:27.374+02:00Dear anonymous, in the US that cover might be a pr...Dear anonymous, in the US that cover might be a problem but i doubt so in europe. We all know the immense amount of prudity in the US where even small kids like 2 years running around naked on the beach cause a major trouble. Coming back to the magazines cover, it is in deed provocative and that in what cartoons should be. And of course the persons on it might not be happy about it but from my point of view they have to live with it. Applying US standards is of course possible but just keep in mind that other countries see things differently. The US is not exactly the moral center of the world anymore. And that for a reason.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-49623551147052176142013-02-10T12:24:18.964+02:002013-02-10T12:24:18.964+02:00Completely agree with first and last posts here ti...Completely agree with first and last posts here till now.<br /><br />Egyptians are very immature and have a long road ahead to both political and social maturity.<br />I agree with you that it is shocking BUT not surprising that Zeinobia found this cover one of the best. This shows how politically immature she is and does not understand that in the UK or US etc this cartoon would be the subject of many lawsuits against the cartoonist and the magazine itself. You cannot libel a person in such a way and expect to walk off scot free. No if I were one of the ones in that cartoon I would be dragging the ones responsible by their asses through the courts.<br />Zeinobia you really need to research a bit before supporting libelous and slanderous items. <br />No it is not okay to humiliate public figures on the front of magazines in this way and the fact that you support it speaks volumes about the current immaturity of the bloggers and activists in opposition.<br />Egyptians have a long hard road to travel to maturity both socially and politically.<br />Seems that every Egyptian is now a Professor of Politics. <br />Just like in everything there are too many supervisors and advisors when really in another country only one plumber is required to fix the leaking pipe, not 10 men all round him giving instructions and being 'Boss'. Maybe it's a class thing. No one wants to be the worker. They all have an insatiable need to be right and be the manager or boss and why the country is in collapse because there are very few productive workers and too many managers sitting drinking coffee who know nothing of the job needing done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-67609017981967732072013-02-10T11:35:24.389+02:002013-02-10T11:35:24.389+02:00You're wrong.You're wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-76889337915615506612013-02-10T11:16:59.358+02:002013-02-10T11:16:59.358+02:00You clearly have no conception of what is acceptab...You <a href="http://www.nakedrepublicans.com/george.html" rel="nofollow">clearly</a> have <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/photo-gallery-group-sex-relief-fotostrecke-35441-3.html" rel="nofollow">no conception</a> of what is acceptable in the West.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-51211301558027607952013-02-10T10:59:31.311+02:002013-02-10T10:59:31.311+02:00If a magazine cover like that ran in the US, the p...If a magazine cover like that ran in the US, the publishers would be sued for defamation of character through libel. You can't portray people naked like that and expect there to be no response. The standard in Egypt nowadays is just to say that if something is blocked or banned it's a violation of freedom of speech. But this is an abuse of that freedom. The part with Morsi and the officer is fine, but depicting people naked is eligible for those involved to be sued. Quite frankly, the fact that you consider this one of the best magazine covers in a while shocks me. It shows no creativity and is just a cheap attempt at drawing people's attention. For examples of what great political cartoon look like, I suggest KAL's cartoons from the Economist. http://www.economist.com/search/apachesolr_search/KAL%27s%20cartoonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-13191107435201054702013-02-10T03:41:25.900+02:002013-02-10T03:41:25.900+02:00Was the Ahmed Nady pixilated as in your picture? I...Was the Ahmed Nady pixilated as in your picture? I looked for the image online but I can't find it.<br /><br />Small typo: You mean "since last September 2012" not "2013".Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-61514175119013996832013-02-10T01:15:08.814+02:002013-02-10T01:15:08.814+02:00It is a stupid and fascist decision and i can assu...It is a stupid and fascist decision and i can assure you if Morsi can block access to youtube because a not very well made video that insults the founder of Islam then what would be next but it seems that the judge was unaware that if he would have taken the time he would have found that there are videos by Shia Muslims that describe Omar Ibn al-Khatab as a sodomite and Aisha cheating on Muhammad and breast feeding the youth of Quriash oh and even worse videos that make fun of Morsi as in the one when he was meeting with the prime minster of Australia and on top of this any computer literate person will be able to find a way to check youtube even if blocked<br />No one says that you have to watch that video and this is what being free is all about and it is about not being told what to watch and not watch<br />But again the fasicsm of el-ikhwan and thier wish to control what Egyptians can and cannot see start with blocking porn sites then this badly made video is next and who knows what will be next<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-41073440444705404622013-02-09T23:10:46.040+02:002013-02-09T23:10:46.040+02:00Egyptians are obviously too immature to handle fre...Egyptians are obviously too immature to handle freedom of expression, based on the fact they go into homicidal rages whenever anyone says something they don't like. Not just youtube, but the whole internet should be blocked, until Egyptians can prove they can act like grownups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com