tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post8466318575967290007..comments2024-03-18T13:13:41.444+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: In 2012 In their own land , Egyptians are not allowed in …Zeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-34648639425619959912016-02-12T22:38:15.379+02:002016-02-12T22:38:15.379+02:00Actually no, they are allowed to leave the country...Actually no, they are allowed to leave the country freely but recently a group of political activists were not allowed to travel because of some legal problems Zeinobiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-91280410729115875402016-02-10T10:33:57.995+02:002016-02-10T10:33:57.995+02:00is it true that Egyptians are not allowed tp leave...is it true that Egyptians are not allowed tp leave their country?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-50954451590229774362016-02-10T10:32:29.721+02:002016-02-10T10:32:29.721+02:00is it true that Egyptians are not allowed to leave...is it true that Egyptians are not allowed to leave their country? it is according to 1 Egyptian I talked to and my friend in FacebookAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-12880233722137345082015-01-26T23:16:18.281+02:002015-01-26T23:16:18.281+02:00Having gone through these comments again the loudn...Having gone through these comments again the loudness in cafes. Not in the cafes I frequent and I have sampled several in Luxor East and West Bank before settling with the Nubian Café with its Mohamed Fawzy soundtrack. I have sat there with my laptop writing sometimes oblivious to my surrounding. The loudest noise I hear is the overzealous lads slamming down the dominoes. When they watch the football they are like the English in a pub reacting to the match as we do. I don't always pay attention. One little boy came in to sell tissues. Instead of 5LE I gave him £5. A friend pointed it out. I laughed it off. I thought "I just made his day." He was not an annoying child although I have known a number who were usually the bookmark boys. Not everyone is the same. I have known good Egyptians and bad Egyptians. Good Egyptians are merely trying to make an honest living whereas the bad ones a more dishonest living. In the troubled times good men may forget their goodness as they struggle to feed their families. The bad ones will probably never change. I have read good stories and bad stories of Egypt experiences. I have sat in the souk filming or merely observing. The same there good respectful traders and a few who are not. I have sat outside the café observing the souk. Tourists walk on unhindered if they show no interest. I have not been back since 2010 so matters will have changed through the present turmoil as men struggle to feed their families and souk traders find their savings spent. So what choice do they have but to latch onto whatever tourists are about. It is not an ideal situation if all you want to do is get from A-2-B unhindered. They need to learn to take NO as meaning NO of "La Shokran". One tip is don't open your mouth. If they are not sure what language you speak they have no way in. Say nothing and they will soon leave you alone if you are lucky. As for the Souk I had read they accept a simple NO or "Maybe tomorrow." And let you walk on. So learn a few of the tricks to combat their tricks. My nickname in the café is Sire. "Enta Sire." They would say meaning that I am wise to the ways of the Egyptian. Wise up and go with the flow. Justicesupremonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-46909280569482361832015-01-26T03:56:09.278+02:002015-01-26T03:56:09.278+02:00A lot of what I have read I can relate to. I have ...A lot of what I have read I can relate to. I have met good well mannered Egyptians who are good living Muslims and I have encountered the hassle and scams that have marred my Egyptian experience. I am not too surprised in reading that an Egyptian says his people are not true Muslims. I have to agree on the most part. My main scam that I fell for was undertaken during the holy month of Ramadan. The person involved is apparently married to an English woman who owns the building. People laugh at him behind his back saying at times that he walks five paces behind her. He however was involved in the scam be it under her instruction. He lied for financial gain as well as breaking a few other rules of Ramadan,I have been ripped off by Egyptians who parade as good Muslims I recognise I good Muslim. The man who I could name but won't along with others did really begin my decline in the great love I had for Egypt. My last visit just before the revolution was I knew to be my last until my heart decides otherwise.After this scam in which I was scared out of the holiday flat through coercion and threats I later asked a Coptic friend if the friends in the café would help me get what I was owed. His reply shocked me. "They will not help you. It is all about getting what you can from the tourists." From my early visits down the souk I discovered this culture of presents. We were always expected to bring presents. Every time I visited I could not meet with friends in the souk without them asking what I have brought for them. Is it not enough that I have spent all of that money to travel to your country? Is my presence not gift enough? I moved on down the souk discovering the Nubian Café in the souk. This problem did not exist at first but the baton is always passed on and so it was their turn as the hassle for presents down the other end they realised with me was spent. And then when I was last there it spread into the café. In that respect I did not mind so much as I spend so much time there and all they wanted were T-Shirts from England and as T-Shirts do not really suit me unless they are black then I didn't mind furnishing them with them as they earned them through their good service and yes in the café they are polite and well mannered. I will not say a bad thing about anyone who owns or works in the café. Perhaps it is because they are Nubian and Nubians are more laid back. They certainly have beautiful music. But I do agree, Egyptians need to look at how they behave and treat us tourists. Egypt is a magical land but I don't think many Egyptians appreciate that. I want to travel but although I am deterred from visited Egypt I cannot think of anywhere else I want to go. I love the culture and history. Any programme about Egypt, Egyptology I watch. But they need to sort themselves out and moderate their behaviour. As for their disrespect for Western women this extends to Egypt women also as I have often sat with young Egyptians who call out things to passing girls.Recently I was horrified to discover that an Ex-Pat living in Luxor is worse than any Egyptian I have come across as he targeted a centre for Poor and Disabled children trying to scam them out of their building so as to turn it into a high rent holiday apartment building. So it is not just Egyptians after a quick buck. As for Children I would meet with a number of beggars outside of McDs. A few coins and they are gone. They don't come running after me. I have stayed in hotels where many Egyptians have stayed. In one hotel they were perhaps students and so behave well. It is those who livelihoods centre around the Nile and Souk and Bazaars that are the problem. Please people heed these warnings and change for the better before Egypt falls into greater decline. People leave with bad opinions, share their stories and further deter others. Change or lose out.Justicesupremonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-70776322253420527002014-01-24T16:08:37.324+02:002014-01-24T16:08:37.324+02:00Complaining about western men and women not wantin...Complaining about western men and women not wanting to be harassed but providing no social outlets for men or women is equally racist. Why is it o.k. for an Arab man to have a white girl in the room but not the other way around ?<br />I am disgusted with the world because even though it seems to be the official or un-official policy of many even moderate Muslim countries. Going through men to arrange for a prostitute is not my idea of fun or 'real' social inter-action between cultures either. <br />I arrived last night having reserved a room for three people but traveling alone thinking I would help some women here have a comfortable place to stay, relax, shower, and enjoy my company (I have engaged ONLY in oral sex since 2010) only to be told by the hotel owner at One Season Hostel that hotels are not allowed to rent to Arab people who are not married (including a white man with an Arab girl(s). That is the real terrorism and discrimination and men controlling what their women can and cannot do and who they are allowed to have an interest in.<br />I am constantly harassed by men to buy something from them or give them money - do they not realize that people that are white are not all wealthy ?<br />I hate hanging out with men anywhere I go, where are all the so-called hot girls of the world ? Kept inside away from having a good time with foreigners. I am a prisoner inside my hotel room, the internet is my only social interaction because the way the world is paranoid I might entertain a woman and have and bring some happiness.jehovahssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00415490427615314744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1258475413521341482013-09-24T12:56:33.311+02:002013-09-24T12:56:33.311+02:00Oh No! We don't benefit from your land, you us...Oh No! We don't benefit from your land, you use your land to benefit from our Tourist Money, the largest draw of your economy. Without tourists, your economy would suffer, hence, affecting you all people. Get the facts straight. By the way, while im typing this comment, an Egyptian officemate kept on spitting on the floor. Gross!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-87747065592297348672013-09-24T12:52:08.458+02:002013-09-24T12:52:08.458+02:00Actually, she's just stating the fact here. It...Actually, she's just stating the fact here. It is based on an actual experience so try to comment on the issue, not on the person delivering the facts and call her a racist. Why wouldn't you acknowledge that such facts does exist and being practiced. It's not racism at all. Racism is a scapegoat of people trying to vindicate themselves from an obviously truthful issue. I've been with at least 30 egyptian people everyday, only 4 of them are mannered and excused from the post above. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-41304711477210474732013-07-08T18:23:26.008+02:002013-07-08T18:23:26.008+02:00I was here searching for the figures for tourism i...I was here searching for the figures for tourism in Egypt. How much will it cost the people now that civil war looms?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-81384821048537434612013-07-08T18:21:05.345+02:002013-07-08T18:21:05.345+02:00I totally agree. This is not peculiar to Egypt. ...I totally agree. This is not peculiar to Egypt. It is practised everywhere, simply because foreigners need protecting from the vultures that exist in all societies who believe these (strangely always perceived as rich but stupid). There is also the custom issue. I see Muslim only hotels are springing up all over the world to facilitate the segregation of women from men. Let them be.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-32800179180353375422013-05-21T14:03:03.151+02:002013-05-21T14:03:03.151+02:00I was living in Luxor for more than a year. I hav...I was living in Luxor for more than a year. I have never met a woman who visited luxor for sex but plenty of Luxor men that believe this and harass any woman with blonde hair even if she is 90 years old. Sex with Egyptian men is so bad that women realise it is not worth it anyway, that is the sad reality. Egyptian men are so inexperienced that they do not understand how to please a woman so stop believing you are all studs, you are not, you are crap. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-35088443939779124602013-05-21T13:59:41.543+02:002013-05-21T13:59:41.543+02:00The writer is absolutely correct. Egyptians are i...The writer is absolutely correct. Egyptians are incapable of putting themselves in the position of another person. they only think of themselves and getting some money. All of this adds up to non stop hassle for the tourist. A visitor from another country maybe has arrived for the first time and wants to enjoy themselves and relax. Selfish Egyptians will not allow this they want to harass them constantly. The tourist learns to stay in the hotel and 2nd not to come again. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-50293167041232328872013-02-20T03:43:28.026+02:002013-02-20T03:43:28.026+02:00I have been going to egypt for about 17yr I also l...I have been going to egypt for about 17yr I also lived there with my egyptian husband. But even before I got married I always felt safe no matter what time it was day or night. Most egyptians I have met are ok. Granted some do hassle but they are just trying to make a living. I say just let it go over your head and enjoy the time in egypt it.s a great place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-73662504043255642752013-02-20T03:31:22.184+02:002013-02-20T03:31:22.184+02:00Not all woman go for sex. Granted a lot do. I go b...Not all woman go for sex. Granted a lot do. I go because I love the country and the people. I have many egyptian friends both male and female. But I did get angry when the police kept asking my egyptian husband for our papers. We were legaly married through the british embassy. No matter how much hassle I get it will not stop me going to egypt. I do not like the way egyptians are treat in there own country. I used to book a holiday from the uk and we always had a problem when we got to the hotel because my husband was egyptian. It.s wrong. We are clean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-42789016568747991022013-02-20T03:05:00.887+02:002013-02-20T03:05:00.887+02:00I beg 2 differ with that comment maybe not all cle...I beg 2 differ with that comment maybe not all clean with water. Our toilets are not the same as in egypt. But myself and my ex egyptian husband use wet wipesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-50133761303085774902012-12-11T16:26:32.541+02:002012-12-11T16:26:32.541+02:00i know for a fact english women go to luxor lookin...i know for a fact english women go to luxor looking for men to have sex with and this happens every year Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-65624460459242553822012-12-07T21:26:58.644+02:002012-12-07T21:26:58.644+02:00I regret that the problem of "white superiori...I regret that the problem of "white superiority" seems to be so widespread. No color or nationality should expect that they deserve to be treated as if they are special or should get preferential treatment beyond being a human being.Monetary status has no bearing on equality of treatment.All flesh ends in the same manner,no difference.sutraquiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04880581003567308646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-67524831099285727402012-12-07T21:12:01.030+02:002012-12-07T21:12:01.030+02:00Since you want to enjoy others serving you and spe...Since you want to enjoy others serving you and spending your money,stay home,and spend at home vacationing at home to help your own country,parasite!sutraquiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04880581003567308646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-45075049900993774362012-11-17T14:22:20.142+02:002012-11-17T14:22:20.142+02:00If someone ask you that you are not allowed in you...If someone ask you that you are not allowed in you own country's property then what ll you do ,<br />great article ,shame for them who are responsible because all humans have equal rights so just obey then just the sake of Allah almighty....Abu Dhabi Tourismhttp://www.abet-uae.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-88380174720815719322012-11-09T23:35:35.545+02:002012-11-09T23:35:35.545+02:00that is really sad about having people banned on t...that is really sad about having people banned on the whole based on their nationality, i hope that doesn't really happen as a blanket policy.<br /><br />i know that most Egyptians are probably kind and wonderful people, but unfortunately as tourist, all those people are busy living their lives and not bothering you. i am a solo american male tourist and can really relate to feeling surrounded by predators the whole time i was in egypt<br /><br />i just got back from cairo, and was lied to, manipulated, cheated, tricked about every 10 steps. i have never experienced anything even similar and i have traveled a lot. im pretty good at ignoring people or getting away, but sometimes they would start insulting me, calling me "stupid" and telling me that i don't use my head, that you shouldn't tell someone "i am ok, thank you" if they haven't asked you for money yet, etc. they might start asking me political questions, like who did i vote for in America, and then attacking me because my "expression" wasn't right -- even though i had completely avoided answering because i wasn't there to argue with strangers on the street about politics. i was there to try egyptian food & see monuments, etc. they would follow me and go on and on and on. i was there for 48 hours and was completely suffocated every moment.<br /><br />i'm SO glad i went and experienced cairo for 2 days and got to see the pyramids, king tut's mask, the nile... but wow. the only time you can breathe is locked in your hotel room. i skipped going out for dinner both nights just because i was too tired to face it.<br /><br />even employees at places like the Egyptian Museum were trying to give you the wrong change or make you pay for free services (like when you have to check your camera). they had even posted a sign to "count your change" above the ticket window, because i guess they can't get their employees to be honest?<br /><br />i know that what i experienced was NOT the real egypt. but unfortunately, it's the egypt that tourists experience. i sat next to a realllly nice muslim Arabic-speaking couple from Yemen on the plane, and they had all the same experiences, so speaking an Arabic dialect or looking middle eastern or wearing a hijab does not exempt you from the harsh treatment i suppose. although they said they were never called "stupid". i was. twice in 2 days.<br /><br />i'm NOT complaining or asking anyone to change AT ALL. i'm just offering an honest account of what it was like to visit, and why i might have a difficult time going back or recommending it to friends as a place to go. i'm really glad i went. it was worth it. i cried at the pyramids and looking into King Tut's mask, just because i couldn't believe i was actually seeing these amazing things i dreamed of my whole life. but 2 days was all i could handle being treated that way every 30 seconds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-17927465491711211182012-10-17T00:13:45.125+02:002012-10-17T00:13:45.125+02:00It's not racism to bring attention to the hara...It's not racism to bring attention to the harassment by the locals. Every 3rd world country is the same, and even many European countries. To be pestered every minute every day by people who think you're rich, even though you may have had to save up your money for a long time to take a holiday in a country you admire and want to enjoy (why else would you want to go there?), is just exasperating and exhausting.<br />And so, after visiting many countries many years ago I decided to never take an overseas holiday again, which will probably make many commentors on this blog happy, at least the ones who tell 'whitey' to shut up and stay at home. Now that's racism.<br />RobertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-8125561976272702042012-10-08T20:45:32.817+02:002012-10-08T20:45:32.817+02:00speaking as a englishman your remark is racist and...speaking as a englishman your remark is racist and totaly wrong your full of shit ya retard,i have never been to egypt but have family who have,and said how nice and respectfull the ppl are,but im sure there is some racist ignorant twats like you there...come to england then comment on us when you can make an informed decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-3860388028884334682012-09-27T14:10:04.904+02:002012-09-27T14:10:04.904+02:00Egyptians, if you don't accept criticism,if yo...Egyptians, if you don't accept criticism,if you don't look in the mirror, you will drown,and your country is already sinking into oblivion.<br /><br />False pride is not a good thing.<br /><br />I'm not egyptian but I've been living & studying here for 2 years now,and I don't like egypt,but I came here because I had great expectations about you, sadly they all vanished with time,right now I'm stuck,I have only 3 semesters left in college so I can't simply pack & leave,I must finish what I started.<br /><br />Egyptians are humans,but your culture is weird.I'll list some stuff which made hotels like Makadi take a policy like this into action. (I'm not speaking about pimps & hustlers,I'm speaking about the normal,average everyday egyptian).<br /><br />1-Loud,very very loud : go to a local cafe,you'll know what I mean,visit an egyptian academy & sit in the cafeteria,go to the metro station.<br /><br />2-No respect for laws,regulations : visit cairo,see the traffic,you'll know what I mean,especially at night,where 60% of cars drive without their lights on, or simply go to city stars mall,and see how many egyptians sit around the fountain in the ground floor,where it's prohibited for people to sit around it,see how many egyptians fight with the mall security guards when they tell them to move. You can also <br /><br />3-Survival for the fittest : a guy with big shoulders will probably take your place in the line,the metro station is again a very good example, local hotels too, where egyptians sometimes invade your table and sit with you because there is no other place (happened to me in a resort in al-sokhna)<br /><br />4-Children : egyptians don't believe in "an adult-only" resort,mostly you'll find a lot of noisy children,who can ruin the day for you.<br /><br />the list goes on. Most Egyptians are not civilized, this is not an insult, this is a simple note that every foreigner is noticing whenever he/she visits egypt.<br /><br />If egyptians want the hotels to treat them better,if they want foreigners to treat them even better,they must start a real revolution, but on an individual level.<br /><br />Nobody hates you, I have a lot of egyptian friends. most of them agree with me, most of them said what I said.<br /><br />After finishing my studies here,I'll never visit egypt again....I'm sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-29118993600524208672012-08-20T13:00:29.647+02:002012-08-20T13:00:29.647+02:00yes ban the retarded albinos and mongolis from vi...yes ban the retarded albinos and mongolis from visting or emegrating to egypt . in europe and russuia they dont even use water to clean their ass after shitting they use toilet paper filthy european pigsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-92140050704547892442012-08-19T07:44:37.352+02:002012-08-19T07:44:37.352+02:00that happens becuase egyptians are good people and...that happens becuase egyptians are good people and arent racist against immigrants or vistors but that will be changed soon i promise <br /><br /><br />ahmedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01934410284083508206noreply@blogger.com