tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post114876441041174581..comments2024-03-29T14:16:22.204+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: Do you enter these sites Young Lady ??Zeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1149201372035981782006-06-02T01:36:00.000+03:002006-06-02T01:36:00.000+03:00I don't underestimate blogging benefits, but I jus...I don't underestimate blogging benefits, but I just look at the picture and try to see it as it is. <BR/><BR/>I hope it helps anyway, but streets are our real solution.Kareem Alkaseerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03445699602590287715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1149198456305243092006-06-02T00:47:00.000+03:002006-06-02T00:47:00.000+03:00I can't argue in many things you said You are sayi...I can't argue in many things you said <BR/>You are saying a reality that we live in Egypt <BR/>but let me take the romantic dreamy role <BR/>Bloggin is just a way to express yourself by sharing your jounral with the entire earthlings who not only like to read blog but by mistake come to youe blog only coz google search showed the way to <BR/>Journal , according to the American laws Bloggers got the same rights of Journalists <BR/>to make my point more straighter I believe that what many Egyptian bloggers write on a daily and hourly basis against the regime reminds me of the articles that people like Ehasn Abd El-Quods wrote before the revolution <BR/>I don't overestimate but also I don't underestimate , the beginning of the rain is a drop and for many years we were considered as a lazy generation yet blogs show that there is a minority capable of stealing the whole world attention <BR/>I considered a war because it is a war against suppresing the opinions and thoughts and you know this happened for a very long time in this countryZeinobiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1149025955051892352006-05-31T00:52:00.000+03:002006-05-31T00:52:00.000+03:00I wonder if a battle can take place without enemy?...I wonder if a battle can take place without enemy?<BR/><BR/>Blogging itself cannot be considered a battle. If you consider blogging a battle then I might consider searching the Web for opposing political or societal views a battle too! <BR/><BR/>Blogging can change what? It can change the feeling that some people have which is being alone with no similar people around. It is able to trigger some discussions, but again they are bloggers who contribute to the discussions. <BR/><BR/>Many bloggers think they are important for some reason. So, I am happy that you said that bloggers are regular people. But let me pause at this word "regular". You think that the regular Egyptians know how to go on-line? They better go for something that may bring food to the family! <BR/><BR/>Most of the Egyptians belong to a class which suffers poverty. Poverty that doesn't allow them to know much about a classy invention called "computers". And if some know about it, there knowledge stops where internet connections might take place. And if they go on-line on some occasions they are faced with symbols called the English language.<BR/><BR/>You know that most of the cyber-cafes open their doors mostly for those who want to spend some time on games. <BR/><BR/>Those regular people are those who save some money in the hope of tasting meat. If they have some <I>spare</I> money they will get something better to eat.<BR/><BR/>Let's look at a highr ranking class, the middle class. If they don't want to go abroad then they don't care much about what happens in Egypt. With the DSL bang in Egypt, which still compromises limited number of users, more people have the chance to go on-line. What do you think they browse? Blogs? <BR/><BR/>I tell you they go for more interesting sites really. Because they don't care much about that in the first place.<BR/><BR/>We can make it another way. Assume that these blogs replaced the press. Then many more people will read it on regular basis? Will there be a change?<BR/><BR/>I think not. Why? Because there are other considereations for the regular people. Most Egyptians think that when they go to jail for freedom they won't be out again..simply neither their relatives can get them out nor their money can. Others think that it is not worthy!<BR/><BR/>To make a change those regular people must think differently. Blogs cannot make them do so. The only thing that can is social activities and social opposition that can teach them about their rights and duties.<BR/><BR/>I personally knew about blogging from a frined who had a blog. I surf the Web daily for many many hours. And it is for serious things mostly. I know many like me but they have no idea about blogging. If this to indicate a thing it indicates that blogging is not so popular.<BR/><BR/>Yes there are some people who want a change to happen in Egypt and they work for it. But they are scattered here and there. The remarkable thing is that they don't touch the public. And here is the crisis.<BR/><BR/>One thing we can do to help blogging so that it has a stronger effect..We have popularise it. But again the change will not be made by blogging. Bogging is rather an advantage we got so use it and we have to use it and make it strongger. But we have to know that the solution doesn't lurk here in blogging but in the streets.<BR/><BR/>Please read this for more details <A HREF="http://almeezan.blogspot.com/2006/05/25th-of-may-another-day-of_114868122605323665.html" REL="nofollow">25th of May; Another Day of Illusion</A>Kareem Alkaseerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03445699602590287715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1149012276935985272006-05-30T21:04:00.000+03:002006-05-30T21:04:00.000+03:00@borning lips, the battle is blogging ,it is about...@borning lips, the battle is blogging ,it is about a change and the want to change to a better life , look to the majority of the blogs , they are the mirror of their society , a silent anger is exceeding more and more <BR/>it is a battle when young girls and boys go and jeopardize their lives to cover the elections whether the presidential or the parilament to expose all those cheat operations to the whole world ,isn't this considered a battle against the regime?<BR/>when a blog calls for the boycott of the Telecom Egypt for the telephone bills and many respnd for this call , isn't this consider something!?<BR/>blogs can do something for the regular Egyptians because already it written by regular Egyptians who just happened to find a means to express their opinions<BR/>this is number one <BR/>nmumber two I can't disagree about your point about the price of freedom <BR/>@Egyptian in USA , Ahmed Bahgat is one of the wisest men who ever wrote in the dull Ahram along with Farouk GouidaZeinobiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1148851250295224992006-05-29T00:20:00.000+03:002006-05-29T00:20:00.000+03:00Dear Zeinobia,Ahmed Bahgat wrote today the followi...Dear Zeinobia,<BR/><BR/>Ahmed Bahgat wrote today the following:<BR/><BR/>ـ إن تكون حرا فهذا لا شيء, أما أن<BR/> تصبح حرا فهذا كل شيء.<BR/><BR/>ومعني ذلك أن الحرية لا تولد مع المرء, وإنما تصنع بالجهد والمعاناة, وكل الصعاب التي توضع في طريق الإنسان الذي يسعي نحو الحرية ليست سوي هبات الهواء التي تزيد من اشتعال النار الداخلية<BR/><BR/>End of the quote.Egyptian-in-USA (Egyptian Muslim Human)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05793930783204890223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1148846664765581602006-05-28T23:04:00.000+03:002006-05-28T23:04:00.000+03:00Well, the identity thing is much more like a perso...Well, the identity thing is much more like a personal thing. Some prefer to be anonymous for different reason and some don't. This is not the most important issue.<BR/><BR/>You say that the battle is still in the beginning. But let me ask you some question, what battle?!<BR/><BR/>Blogging can reach very limited number. It is reachness will not trigger any social movement. The ideal situation would be to transfer what we say in blogs to reality. And by reality I mean regular people.<BR/><BR/>This cannot be done through blogging, simply ask most of the Egyptians what the Web is and they just say what! some would say this where we find porn.<BR/><BR/>Blogging is not a battle. The regime considers it a potential threat. But bear in mind that any word about the regime is considered so either. <BR/><BR/>The battle would be to say what you say loudly. <BR/><BR/>The most important aspect of Egyptian blogging is that it showed that there are some people who care about the Egyptian scene not because it is going to make a change itself.<BR/><BR/>Reality cannot be changed by intentions. If it could be, then we would see newspapers revolutionise the world. The Egyptian press couldn't although it has much wider reach than what blogging has.<BR/><BR/>If someone fears being known, will he/she be able to face the regime?!<BR/><BR/>There is nothing for free, there is always a price.Kareem Alkaseerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03445699602590287715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1148839088962933092006-05-28T20:58:00.000+03:002006-05-28T20:58:00.000+03:00I didn't say to be silent but to keep their identi...I didn't say to be silent but to keep their identity as secret as they can <BR/>I never say that they must be silent heavens forbid simply because most of us in his/her public life is so<BR/>last year Reporters without Borders published a guide how the bloggers in countries like Egypt protect their identity so they won't be harm <BR/>What I am trying to say behaving like suicidal kamikaze now is not good , as the battle is still in the beginning , I was happy by the increase number of bloggers in Egypt but now many of them left blogging for good <BR/>Blogging helps to cross the line of fear but it takes time to do so<BR/>There is already fear that is going on in the blogging medium and you can feel it <BR/>I don't want one day to go online and find blogger and other blogging services blocked , I don't want a witch hunt for us , I don't want to use proxy or find myself traced <BR/>we are more like a ghost , annoying ghost we should be like this ,it is much annoying not to see your enemy <BR/>this is my opinion <BR/>The Egyptian blogsphere will suffer alot if every now and then someone like Alaa or Malak being caughtZeinobiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-1148828093715686392006-05-28T17:54:00.000+03:002006-05-28T17:54:00.000+03:00Hello,I agree with you that the potential audience...Hello,<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that the potential audience of the Web compromises a small number relative to the whole population. But this doesn't mean that we have to shut up in fear. If there is a meaning that one can conclude it would be addressing people themselves..normal people.<BR/><BR/>Other types of media is tightly contolled by the regime. So, the real challenge becomes reaching people. Blogs will not do for the regular Egyptian. Most other media-related ways didn't either. <BR/><BR/>There is only one way through and it is going to people. Everyone of us meat many people daily and it is maybe the last resort to make use of these daily regular conversations.<BR/><BR/>How do you think it will be if everyone chooses to keep silent? Will it be any better?Kareem Alkaseerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03445699602590287715noreply@blogger.com