tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post5953003119974439995..comments2024-03-23T00:46:27.084+02:00Comments on Egyptian Chronicles: Et Toi Kuwait !?Zeinobiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12290387395565291310noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-34981952875396278822012-03-25T12:53:00.270+02:002012-03-25T12:53:00.270+02:00The muslims contributed a lot in the field of scie...The muslims contributed a lot in the field of science. Now the muslims are suffering due to their lack of interest in knowledge. Look at the past- the muslims were the top scientists, inventors, astronomers, Astrologers, Chemist. You can name any field in the science and you will find that the muslims contributed a lot.Nasirhttp://islamicscientists.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-38235740973619902802011-05-01T07:20:36.680+02:002011-05-01T07:20:36.680+02:00The Arts can teach us how to live and how to under...The Arts can teach us how to live and how to understand others.Science can develope clear thinking. Science doesn't lie, something is either verifiably and demonstrably true or it is not but it can't indicate how to live. Religion because of how I've watched others use it can't do that for me either. If I follow their example, I'm finished.<br />There is nothing wrong with muslims DNA or Arabs. Thats what I learnt from watching events for the last 5 months. It is still going to be uphill but the changes are taking place. You as a scientist know that most of the major discoveries depended on almost miraculous breakthroughs at the most unexpected times.pirooznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-69593171320292781822011-04-30T19:56:11.253+02:002011-04-30T19:56:11.253+02:00Reply to Pirooz, Islam asked Muslim to seek knowle...Reply to Pirooz, Islam asked Muslim to seek knowledge as an essential part of adhering to the Islamic faith, that includes the sciences, arts and philosophy. Early Islamic scientists and visionary leaders understood that and invested in these heavily, in damascus, cairo,persia,kurdistan, Bagdad, Kairouan in tunisia and in andalousia, but then leadership deteriorated until now. I agree with you 100% on the arts point, the arts are an essential part of the civilized society that Islam demanded, and if you studied Islamic philosophy then part of the argument is the twin-ship between the arts and science,but the arts on their own will not help you defend yourself and your country against a technologically advanced invader. What the Arts does is make you build a sensible balance, where science is not used irresponsibly.When the Arabs lost their technological edge, they were invaded by the Turks, had they continued in the search for scientific exploits, the Turks would not dare, I hope this lesson finally sinks in. And if you think I am an Islamist, you are wrong, I am but, in fact I am a scientist. Yes Muslims are part of the problem and also the solution but not before they realize that their DNA has been infected by centuries of unscientific reasoning, violence, disrespect for each other, and tribal chaos, they need to change the bad DNA strands so to speak and recreate themselves and their civilization, will they ever do?<br />not until they discover where the problem is through the knowledge base reality of Islam, and I do not expect that any time soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-53249332134538910502011-04-30T11:29:21.310+02:002011-04-30T11:29:21.310+02:00There is no limit man stupidity .... unfortunately...There is no limit man stupidity .... unfortunately it is about you .... and the crowd received the freedom of not knowing what it doing.Egypt mired in chaos, filth and ignorance ... what's next? When a country ruled by the crowd, demanding blood and circuses! After Mubarak to judge the Attorney General? "He worked the same under Mubarak!<br />ListenRead phoneticallyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-59924911699140763552011-04-30T05:37:59.575+02:002011-04-30T05:37:59.575+02:00You might have a point there. We're all part o...You might have a point there. We're all part of the problems but also hopefully part of the solutions. As to education,knowledge and books I can honestly say I love almost nothing more but I favor the arts side because I worry science and technology have only taught us how to kill each other more effeciently and religion only gives us justifications to do that.pirooznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-63033685926204316602011-04-30T00:46:13.466+02:002011-04-30T00:46:13.466+02:00I think you or people like you are part of the pro...I think you or people like you are part of the problem. Go back to school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-10021641452465987302011-04-30T00:29:15.489+02:002011-04-30T00:29:15.489+02:00Again, I say it is not up to you to say who is or ...Again, I say it is not up to you to say who is or who is not a true muslim. No-one gave you that power and in fact no-one has that power to give. What I am is irrelevant. I am not claiming to have the right to decide who is and who is not a true muslim.pirooznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-87831499992569935202011-04-29T19:44:09.611+02:002011-04-29T19:44:09.611+02:00I don't know many true Muslims and I can tell,...I don't know many true Muslims and I can tell, you are not Muslim either. As of the question of Mubarraks age, well it is irrelevant. Old people are wise and if he was to qualify then his attention would be directed at coming to terms with his deeds and facing his god not trying to kill Egyptians in order to retain power in this world. Old people are supposed to be wiser and Mubarrak is anything but. So what if he is 82 year old? that does not qualify him as an old wise person if he is still an outlaw and a killer. Finally, I will call a Muslim country Islamic if the ratio of scientist and engineers in that country is higher than any other country in the world, but until they reach that ratio, they are not Muslims because one of Islam's first rule is education, science and technology, but of course you don't know that. That is why no so called Islamic state qualifies as Islamic or at least none that I know of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-55553542807440697592011-04-29T18:14:13.242+02:002011-04-29T18:14:13.242+02:00you are even questioning whether he is an old man ...you are even questioning whether he is an old man and I am supposed to be the one who is crazy. Also you don't get say who is muslim and who is not, who gave you that power? Noone.pirooznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-21474058124781427412011-04-29T13:16:54.475+02:002011-04-29T13:16:54.475+02:00What? Mubarrak is Egyptian, he is a muslim,and he ...What? Mubarrak is Egyptian, he is a muslim,and he is a war hero and he is an old man? Are you crazy?<br />he is none of the above?<br />Egyptian? I don t think so, he tortured the Egyptians and forged his way into Egypt's wealth and never did anything for the Egyptians for decades.<br />Muslim? I beg to differ, a Muslim is a person whose main goal is to improve the conditions of all Muslims including Education, Economics, Human condition, law an order and much more, Mubarrak left Egypt poorer and worst off 30 years after he left. War hero? I beg to differ, what war did he help to win? A war hero is someone who through his action record would distinguish himself in the battle field which by all accounts I assume he helped to win.<br />Which one is that then? the six day war of 67? Yum Kippur 73? or any other war his army has ever defeated a perceived enemy. For all I know all of these wars resulted in losing land or do you read other historic books? Get off it, Mubarrak and the rest of the Arab Corrupt leaders are neither national, nor Muslims nor Hero's, they are greedy criminals. Saddam, Gaddafi, Ben Ali, Mubarrak etc.. etc..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-42745763084863982232011-04-29T12:40:11.715+02:002011-04-29T12:40:11.715+02:00I lived for 10 years in Lebanon in the 60's an...I lived for 10 years in Lebanon in the 60's and in the summer we used to spend a month in the mountains because it was cooler, and there most GCC rich communities would go to cool off. Many of them would be rich Saudi's and Rich Iraq's. A great number of them would come from Kuwait and guess what? They all hated each other and all hated the Palestinians. The Saudi's thought they were the best of the lot, the Iraq's never spoke to them and the Kuwaitis kept to themselves. All this was demonstrated in Villages high up the Maronite Christian mountains of Lebanon and the locals were used to them and never interfered as they rented them their houses in the summer. The disagreements between these people was also visible at school as what we see today is part of a long standing tribal mentality the prophet Mohammed wanted to get rid off. Recently this tribal instinct surfaced right now because it was in the interest of “you know who” that these people remain divided. My school had many Arab nationals including Egyptians loyal to Nasser many of whom I miss and a few died in 1967 as a result of the leaders incompetence. By the way, none of these people who went to school with me were any good at school, the best performers were Americans, and Lebanese Maronite kids who though they were good friends with the Americans and the Europeans always competed against them fairly and this raised the standard well above the rest of what the Middle Easterners could comprehend so they turned to sports and parties. The Amricans and the Lebanese Maronite kids everybody knew especially the teachers who marked the papers took their studies very seriously despite their young age and were much more mature at understanding math, science and the languages. Most of them “thanks to Facebook” are now scientists, aerospace engineers and professors and successful businessmen keeping in touch with me, but sadly, last at school in nearly all subjects especially the sciences were all from the Middle East and these too I keep in touch with, or at least those who are still alive (not many) and only few of them remain in Iraq, either been bombed out of their houses or did the right thing and went out early in 67 when I left. But the most shocking fact to me was that the European and the American kids apart from excelling at school work, use to team up every Friday afternoon at the school football field in the International School of Beirut and beat the hell out of the Middle Easterners every time at football and every week, poor sods Middle Easterners were not even fit enough to win at competitive sports. I am not surprised at the way things have turned out so far. You see life is exactly like at school, there are those who do their homework become bright and rise above the rest, those who don’t and place themselves at the bottom for the rest of their lives, those who are stupid but devious so they cheat, they pass the exams then they fall because they cannot perform without cheating, and those who are stupid but rich so they buy the exam papers and carry on buying others to do the work for them for the rest of their lives, and then there are the bullies, nothing in the head with the ability to get what they want through violence. I leave it up to you to figure out which one you or your country fit in. So what model should Middle Eastern and African nations follow to pull themselves out of poverty and ignorance? Look East, look and learn from India.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-63667021710940854762011-04-29T06:19:06.821+02:002011-04-29T06:19:06.821+02:00Egypt can be a powerhouse but only as a democracy....Egypt can be a powerhouse but only as a democracy. Mubarak should face justice, tempered<br />with mercy. Because he is Egyptian, he is a muslim,and he is a war hero and he is an old man.pirooznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-87812712104389704612011-04-29T02:53:54.860+02:002011-04-29T02:53:54.860+02:00@anonymous 01:56:00 AM, When rednecks call Arabs i...@anonymous 01:56:00 AM, When rednecks call Arabs ignorant and say Islam is stuck in the Dark Ages it's you they're talking about.Jasonhttp://elnaschiewatch.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-20574010318304249752011-04-29T02:49:28.575+02:002011-04-29T02:49:28.575+02:00Excellent post Zeinobia.I have few comments:The PM...Excellent post Zeinobia.I have few comments:The PM's visit to the GCC countries at this point was an act of weakness.The fallen regime has constantly shown for decades that we need them more than they need us!They thought that Egyptians are for sale!!That is not accepted any more,we are a sovereign state that deals on win-win basis and according to what serves our best interests.Yes,revolutions could be contagious but that upplies to repressive regimes with fed up people!But,we do not export uprisings!The GCC do not believe in Pan-Arabism!!They only believe that money can buy anything...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-26428636523323143152011-04-29T02:20:00.236+02:002011-04-29T02:20:00.236+02:00did u ever lived abroad specially in the gcc count...did u ever lived abroad specially in the gcc countries? coz i believe u would ve know that their culture and ours are extremely different their way of living thinking even their feeling towards expats. justice.needs has nothing to do with ours this old fairy tail stories about the Arab unity. and that we are om eldonia and the godfather is bullshit. they don't care about us. they don't respect us we exported our uneducated labors . greedy personnel or asskissers who gave them the worst impression ever. i suffered 5 years lislistening to their criticism ; défendending my country. my culture and even after the revolution the pushed me to the edge when they knew that i joined the revolution for 5 days and i had to resignAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-75961183187830774612011-04-29T02:02:13.584+02:002011-04-29T02:02:13.584+02:00Another great report Z, it makes my heart boiling ...Another great report Z, it makes my heart boiling of anger reading this! when is the Gulf or other countries stop meddling in Egypt business and future!!! I hope those Gulf leaders will be punished by Allah swt and will bring big disaster to them! May Allah swt help Egyptians and Egypt insyallah to be a better country.LuluWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8003335.post-32405728258851385742011-04-29T00:56:11.205+02:002011-04-29T00:56:11.205+02:00lovely post zenobia
i fear that our Gulf Arab brot...lovely post zenobia<br />i fear that our Gulf Arab brothers think too much of $$$$$ and not enough of national pride<br />A Saudi king who burns mosques and qurans in Bahrain is no example of muslim. This is not Islam. This is what Islam warns us of. <br />I look at our world today and see 100 tornadoes in the USA. God is mighty. Gods power is endless. Gods messages are being ignored. Americans forget the bible and the plagues and disasters. God sent messages and warnings. Many are ignoring these warnings because they don't believe in God or his power.<br />We have to open our eyes to the ones set here on earth by satan. The ones doing his work. I do belive that Egypt is on the right path now after so long on the wrong one. God help all Egyptians and save them from their enemies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com