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Our debate here is not about pictures with her friends or in front a Markva tank but about her pictures with those Palestinian prisoners blindfolded and handcuffed with mockery poses.
Despite Abergil's assurance that she did not mean any contempt to the Palestinians her pictures which she removed show more than contempt , they are speaking themselves about the disrespect to the simple human rights and according to Israeli press itself this attitude is a norm for the IDF soldiers which does not surprise me on the contrary , we all know how the IDF soldiers treat Palestinians whether in their land or on the crossings or in combat.
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If you want real peace with your enemy then stop dehumanizing them.
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You are perfectly right. This is wrong and stupid. (And condemned by all Israeli papers)
ReplyDelete"If you want real peace with your enemy then stop dehumanizing them."
ReplyDeleteLOOK WHO'S TALKING!!!
Arabs and Muslims have been massacring and dehumanizing Jews and stealing their land for 1400 yrs and still going strong. Maybe now you know how Jews felt under Arab-Muslim rule and occupation for 1400 yrs.
Not to mention Arab-Muslim occupation of Egypt and dehumanizing Copts, massacring them and stealing their land for 1400 yrs! And shooting African migranst in the back.
I wonder why you don't blog about more serious crimes like Syrian soldiers (who you admire so much)eating live animals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j5bu_vlTc&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciIxsapx_Fk&feature=player_embedded
Or a Palestinian who murdered Blacks in the US (it seems that killing blacks is an Arab past time activity)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_Abuelazam
Or Turkey (which you admire so much) using chemical weapons against Kurds (another Arab-Muslim past time activity)
http://www.wmdinsights.com/I4/ME3_KurdsAccuse.htm
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,711536,00.html
Regardless of IDF's public statements and actions to be taken against Eden Abergil, the majority of Israeli people comments and opinions posted in their news media criticized her and called her various names ranging from 'idiot' to @%#*& and demanded for her punishment.
ReplyDelete@Angry Israeli: go and read your own history written by Zionists like yourself and you will discover who protected Jews in Spain and in MENA. Its idiots like you and that girl who are the living example of the plague of Zionism that has spread in the region. If Muslims were killing Jews and Christians and taking their possessions how come almost every single Muslim country has Jewish and Christian citizens until this very day?!! How long will you keep on living in the "We are victims lies"? how many lives will need to be taken until you realize you are nothing but criminals and land and soul grabbers who did far worse stuff to the ppl of the region that whatever was done against Jews in the West?!!!
ReplyDeleteThe fact is the following, the only system of accepting the other was that brought by Muslims, millions converted willingly and that includes the Muslims of todays MENA. Many of us come from families that had and some even still have Jewish and Christian members, but ppl evolve and in that case, acknowledge the last version of God's message that was brought previously by Eissa and Mossa. Alas, your heart filled with hate makes you "think" you are really from the sons of Yacoub, while probably you are far less related to that tribe that many of the original inhabitants of the region, including many of those Palestinians you have been killing. The same hatred makes you even think w/o logic and make up your own version of history. It wasnt the Muslims who persecuted Jews in EU, in Spain, in Germany and in EU in general. Its not the Muslim who are today supporting a criminal Zionist installment, supporting taking lives, grabbing lands, fields, water sources and even fields.
@Anon: oh great they condemned her, wow how nice of them. They are the reason occupation remains. They still think they have a right to the lands they stole, they still justify taking lives left and right, demolishing houses, ect. they are still the one electing govs not interested in peace. Until thy wake up and realize the crimes that were committed with their support and make a real effort to right their wrongs, it doesnt matter what is posted and written as a failed attempt to appear as caring for others, after all we know those others are nothing by "goyim" for them!!!
@Angry Israeli... owned!!!hahah
ReplyDeletePersonally I thought Angry Israeli got the better of that exchange, because I don't swallow crazy-pearls. But I do wish he would learn to make links.
ReplyDelete@Jason so you think Muslims and Arabs are just bad ass invaders like the Angry Israeli claim !!??
ReplyDeleteif I have time , I would bring many links on how suppressive and unjust the Christian Western rule since the Roman state in the world as well but unfortunately I know this technique very well and I know that he wants me to provoke me and drag me in to an endless debate that it will take days so I let the caravan passes
The thing you fail to realize is that we've been taught at school that Roman rule was generally fascist with some positives (trade, rule of law, ...)
ReplyDeleteThe Muslim interpretations of history of Spain is like to take Roger II of Sicily and conclude that Italy has been always tolerant.
btw I don't have to show any links except, just a book written by "liberal" Husayn Haykal, which shows Mohammed was the first Jew killer 8)
Such was their obsession with hatred of Muhammad and the Muslims that the Jews believed no life was worth living as long as the Muslim power was not broken and the Muslims were not subjugated or killed ... destruction of the Jews was a question of life and death for the Muslims as well
Massacre of Jews was "self defense" says Haykal. Just like Goebbels.
The Prophet divided the properties, women, and children of Banu Qurayzah among the Muslims after he had separated one-fifth for public purposes ... Sa'd ibn Zayd al Ansari sent a number of Banu Qurayzah captives [women and kids] to Najd where he exchanged them for horses and armour in order to increase Muslim military power.
It is ok to enslave jewish kids and women and exchange them for horses, feel the justice and good.
@Zeinobia, the following are the shiniest crazy-pearl baubles from Anonymous's screed:
ReplyDelete"you will discover who protected Jews in Spain and in MENA... how come almost every single Muslim country has Jewish and Christian citizens until this very day?!!... the only system of accepting the other was that brought by Muslims, millions converted willingly and that includes the Muslims of todays MENA."
Far be it from me to instruct Muslims on Islam, but as an infidel I can assure you on my own good authority that sharia-institutionalized dhimmitude is not a selling point of Islam. Nor is the de facto ethnic cleansing of Jews from most of MENA, including Egypt, accompanied in a single breath by denial of that ethnic cleansing. Nor is the frank confession that the way to get along with Muslims is to convert. Subtle taqiyya would have been a wiser approach for Anonymous, if she wants to persuade non-Muslims at all, and not merely insult them as "idiots... criminals and land and soul grabbers" and spouting "We are victims lies" Holocaust denial.
@John ,I know where you want me to go and I know that you hate Muslims and You will be more that happy to see the billion dead
ReplyDeleteFirst of all if we are going to speak about the Madinat history then let's state the fact that the Jew tribes chiefs were collaborating with the Mecca tribes that wanted to kill Muslims and end Islam from the surface of this earth during the time of war
Why you did not mention that the Chiefs of Jewish tribes broke the treatment with Muslims there
Nice touch to compare Haikal with a war criminal Nazi , seriously nice touch that shows your true intention
I know you will come back along with their brothers to spread lies and twist truth
Angry Israeli redux. For my own convenience and perhaps other readers these are Angry Israeli's links enabled.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j5bu_vlTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciIxsapx_Fk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_Abuelazam
http://www.wmdinsights.com/I4/ME3_KurdsAccuse.htm
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,711536,00.html
@Angry Israeli
ReplyDeleteThe Wikipedia article says serial murderer Elias Abuelazam is a Christian by the way. In fairness.
I know that you hate Muslims and You will be more that happy to see the billion dead
ReplyDeleteROFL!
Mass murders, enslavement of kids and women are the most hyenious crimes, they are wrong and barbaric at any time against anyone, even against aggressive powers.
All you zionists can kiss my hairy Arab a*s :
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQcQdWBqt14
cheers!=)
"Personally I thought Angry Israeli got the better of that exchange, because I don't swallow crazy-pearls."
ReplyDeleteActually Jason , both of their arguments sucked. I just like pissing of angry Israelis like him because of their pathetic double standards.
Also, since when has wikipedia ever been a reliable source? If you check out borat's page it says he's the President of Kazakhstan-_-.
Please stop listening to fox news and kissing Israel's butt.
@ Jason 8/19/2010 05:02:00 PM who said "The Wikipedia article says serial murderer Elias Abuelazam is a Christian by the way. In fairness."
ReplyDeleteI never said he wasn't Christian. All I said was that he's a Palestinian. That he is a Christian just proves my point that Arab Christians hate Jews and Blacks just as much as the Muslim Arabs do.
@ Zeinobia 8/19/2010 03:18:00 PM who said "John I know that you hate Muslims and You will be more that happy to see the billion dead"
And I know, Z, you hate Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists and want them all dead.
And who said "the Jew tribes chiefs were collaborating with the Mecca tribes that wanted to kill Muslims and end Islam from the surface of this earth during the time of war"
We all know that this is just one more of Muhammad's lies to excuse the slaughter of Jews and we all know that the Muslims slaughtered Jews and not vise versa.
@ Zeinobia 8/19/2010 01:45:00 PM who said "so you think Muslims and Arabs are just bad ass invaders like the Angry Israeli claim !!??"
Yes, that what you are Zeinobia, invaders and occupiers, the biggest the world has ever known in fact. Your evil empire streches from China in the east to Europe in the west to Africa in the south.
And who said "I would bring many links on how suppressive and unjust the Christian Western rule since the Roman state in the world "
Oh and this gives you the right to steal other people's lands? Who do you think you are? This "holier than the pope" atitude of yours doesn't impress me. The Romans destroyed our temple and you converted it (and other Jewish sites) to 2 mosques. So what's the difference?
Israel is not a country period.
ReplyDeleteOne word Angry Israeli : NAKBA
ReplyDeleteYou guys defending Israel from afar dont even know wat ur defending anymore. No-one is denying the crimes commited by hamas but Israel is playing right into their hands and seemingly acting stupid enough for them to claim legitmacy, and give Israel an excuse to continue the seige. If the Israeli govt. wasnt full of religious nutjobs and far right politicians that hitler would be proud of, the world would have alot more trust in them.
ReplyDelete@Israeli moron: A) Muslims were the only ones who actually had a multi-faith state. Jews achieved nothing as far as having their own civilization, their contributions have always and will always be part of the civilizations of others, and that is the fact you hate to acknowledge.
ReplyDeleteB)As the majority in Palestine became Muslims it was only normal to build holy places and nothing was built on top of any thing Jewish. In fact none of the so many attempts to find any traces of Israeli claims to that effect, turned any thing. If any thing it shows that the story about God getting angry at disobedient Jews, bringing the destruction of wt they made and them getting expelled from the Holy Lands at the hands of others, is true and that of all those who lived in this area, Jews made the least contribution to its cities and civil life.
Use your brains for a second, Muslims had the chance to kill christians, Jews along with followers of other faiths and have the lands to themselves, they didnt why bec that is not what we want and that is not the purpose intended. Unlike you, we believe in co-existence while you only know and understand isolation. The Middle East has room only for its real inhabitants, regardless of their religion, and those allowed and/or invited by them and has no room for occupiers. Again, if you have brains and care for your own you will understand that forcing your existence among us and believing that military force will protect you are nothing but false illusions. We have occupiers before you and look where are they today. Lear the lesson, rid your heart from hating us just bec u feel the need to defend the illegal entity you have been brainwashed to worship and turn a blind eye to how this entity is the worst form of religious exploitation.
@ Anonymous 8/21/2010 09:01:00 AM
ReplyDeleteI got one word for you too: 1400 years of Jewish Nakba.
man I thought the Jews started their agony before that!!!! What about the Jewish Nakba in Europe , will you say Down with Europe , Down with Christianity too !!??
ReplyDeleteYour historical sources are just pathetic as your IDF statements and you must know that it does not give you any justification or any right what so ever to occupy or to kill or to torture anyone else.
By the way these are 5 words you said not one word !!
Angry Israeli made a link!!! In celebration, I will do some independent reading about nakbas, both Palestinian and Jewish. Congratulations, Angry Israeli, and interesting link.
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Hmm. Zeinobia's right, even "Jewish Nakba" by itself is two words. :)
ReplyDeleteohhh man I just love how Angry Israeli has to argue against every single comment... shows how pissed off he is. Glad some of us are acheiving their objectives=) Keep coming back AngryIsraeli, I'll be waiting for more pathetic rants from you =D I'm pretty sure half of the people here haven't bothered to look at any of the links you've posted... except maybe Jason.
ReplyDeleteShe is beautiful though
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