I can’t believe that the man who wrote “A Song on the Pass” from 30 years ago is the same man who boldly is heading that front defending the Israel day and night with no respect to all those people the Israeli war machine has been killing up now !!
This man my dear friends I am speaking about is Ali Salem , yes Ali Salem
Ladies and gentlemen may I present to you one of Egypt’s finest war films “ A song on the pass” which was based upon a play Salem once wrote !! The film was directed by Ali Abdel Khalak , it was his first film I believe , you can see how good he was before being spoiled by Nadia El-Genndy. The film was starred by Mahmoud Marousy, Mahmoud Yassin, Ahmed Mar’ie and Salah El-Sadany. It is in Arabic unfortunately with no translation. I saw it once on the Egyptian TV ,already rarely it is screened anymore , I do not know if it is because Ali Salem or because of its topic
I just want to clarify something Salem before his controversial visits to Israel was not that prominent in the Egyptian theatre , even after writing "A Song on the Pass” , he only became famous for writing the legendary comic play “Madrasat El Moshaghbeen” ; but wait a second the play we all watch in TV whenever it is shown is not the final play he wrote. Salem back in 1970s sued the cast for changing his play’s script , it was a case in front of the Egyptian courts and guess what the cast and the crew won the case because what they did from the judges point of view was even better than what he wrote not to mention the play was originally based upon “To sir with love” !!
If the Israeli government depends upon men like Ali Salem , then they must stop whining on why the Egyptian people refuse neutralization of relations.
By the way earlier this week Ali Salem appeared on “10 PM” show defending the neutralization of relations with Israel in the current time and he said a strange thing that there will not be war between us because of the peace treaty for 100 years except in one condition , if a religious party takes over the rule and cancels the treaty , thus we will enter a war again with Israel and will lose Sinai …We have been before there !!
With my all respect to him there are some points he did not clarify very well in his assumption or prediction or whatever he considers :
- He did tell us which religious party will take over the rule and where exactly , speaking about the Peace treaty means speaking about two countries : Egypt and Israel and I wonder if Salem who became an expert in the Israeli affairs knows that in Israel there are powerful right wing religious parties that far more dangerous than the Muslim brotherhood if he meant them
- Why does he assume that we will lose the war and lose Sinai again ??
Good to know somes Egyptians are clever and realized that Islamofacism spreaded from Arab countries which I daily see here in Europe.
ReplyDeleteJohn you are just pissed because the number of Muslims in Europe is increasing and all the insults, the wars, the bans, the racist actions are not working to stop it :D
ReplyDeleteJust for a second forget about the names of the 2 sides and go through the facts and you will realize that the problem with Israel is all about justice and not about religion and like it or not the followers of the 3 religions in the region where better off before Europe got rid of its Jews and sent them off to our part of the World.
I don't know but I see a few issues all bottled into one question (that you are asking). Is it that simple to know what this man is thinking? Why did the President of Egypt feed the Israeli army when they were killing, maiming, and (God knows what)the Palestinians?
ReplyDeleteI would pose the same question to the man who is running the country, not some playwright.
Just my thoughts...
@John
ReplyDeleteand what is related in this post to your Islamphobia
@anonymous ,please remind him how everyone was living happily in the region before Israel
@Salma , It is easier to ask these questions to a playwright than to a president in a country like ours.
Anonymous:
ReplyDeletenonsense n1:
There are no barriers at all, immigrations is still rising and 5% Muslim population of Denmark take 40% of all social benefits. I am just upset to our governments that they feed them.
Justice? :) Justice is that any state has barely right to exists.
nonsense n2:
90% of Jews which had emigrated due to Nazism ended in the USA which has the highest Ashkenazi population. 50% of Jewish population of Israel is created by Jews from Arab countries - that's the statistical fact.
Zeinobia:
nothing, I just like when some Egyptians like Ali Salem can use brain, respect to this man.
@John:
ReplyDeleteIm sure you know there are plenty of barriers to limit the number of Muslims admitted as immigrants to EU and to the US. Just do a simple comparison between the number of Egyptian christians given green cards and the number of Egyptian muslims given green cards. You are also forgetting that the increase in the % of muslims is not only because of the rise in immigrants but also a rise in coverts as well.
Well, if they are not working then in most cases its because they are not given proper training and education. Its not a secret the particularly in EU, there has been a failure in integrating them. Also its naive to forget why do you accept immigrants? If you do not like it then start having more kids because EU is certainly aging, accept the jobs you hire others to do and well live up to promises to develop the countries previously exploited as colonies.
Yes, a state can not exist on a stolen land and at the expense of ppl who lived there, did you ever count how many Palestinians lost their lives, homes, every thing because of this ugly forced-in country? Imagine if i come today and tell you the land you built your house on today belonged to my ancestors get out or i will shoot you. Will you still see this as just and fair? Palestine had 8% Jews among its population and only those had the right to live there not the millions of European Jews. Ironically, you are complaining from the rise in % of muslims "allowed" in as immigrants and yet fail to see how unfair that uninvited immigrants moved into Palestine and messed its demographics with the intention of colonizing it, as if the British colonization was not enough.
I'd love to see your source for that statistic because its well documented that the majority of Jews came from Russian and Eastern Europe before WWI, during and after, and of course during and after WWII, even the nazis eventually allowed 50 thousand Jews to move to Palestine. Each time Jews were moving from Europe thanks to a rise in anti-semitism in their country. That goes to show exactly what many in MENA have been screaming about that the palestinians and the entire region were made to pay for the mistakes and racism of Europe against its own Jews and that Palestine became a dumping area. What you can consider a sizable immigration by Arab Jews (still less than those coming from Russia and EU) happened mainly after 1948. And that shows that majority of Arab Jews immigrated after hostilities between the gang of Zionist thieves and Arab countries not because they really wanted to move there and it goes to prove how the creation of Israel messed with a predominantly harmonious coexistance in MENA. Now, if we look at present times Israel has been suffering from declining number of immigrants and reverse immigration and faced with a demographical dilemma.
You are the same Anonymous as from Ali Pasha blog aren't you? I don't have a time for super long answers so just quickly:
ReplyDeleteJust do a simple comparison between the number of Egyptian christians given green cards and the number of Egyptian muslims given green cards.
1) Green card is not for Europe
2) Get some statistical education it says nothing, I want relative numbers of requests/accepts and source of it.
You are also forgetting that the increase in the % of muslims is not only because of the rise in immigrants but also a rise in coverts as well.
Source? I don't know about any statistical study covering it, but I know dozens of ex Muslims as well.
Well, if they are not working then in most cases its because they are not given proper training and education. Its not a secret the particularly in EU, there has been a failure in integrating them. Also its naive to forget why do you accept immigrants? If you do not like it then start having more kids because EU is certainly aging, accept the jobs you hire others to do and well live up to promises to develop the countries previously exploited as colonies.
1) My country did not have any colony
2) Today people have no connection to colonization at all, it's like me demanding reconquest of Constantinopol, or settlement for Jihad in Spain, Italy, France, Greek, Austria, Yougoslavia ....
3) Hidus - ok, Chinese - ok, Muslims - problems
4) I should have teach them? You must be kidding me, they don't want to go to our schools, they are Kuffar.
Yes, a state can not exist on a stolen land and at the expense of ppl who lived there, did you ever count how many Palestinians lost their lives, homes, every thing because of this ugly forced-in country?
You did not get me, no state has right to exists - the USA, Egypt or Israel
Palestine had 8% Jews among its population and only those had the right to live there not the millions of European Jews
Get you basic law education and began with homestead principle
Ironically, you are complaining from the rise in % of muslims "allowed" in as immigrants and yet fail to see how unfair that uninvited immigrants moved into Palestine and messed its demographics with the intention of colonizing it, as if the British colonization was not enough
Do you read what I write? I am complaining that our government pay them for immigration, there is no parallel to Palestine at all as there had not been any Palestinian government.
I'd love to see your source for that statistic because its well documented that the majority of Jews came from Russian and Eastern Europe before WWI, during and after, and of course during and after WWII, even the nazis eventually allowed 50 thousand Jews to move to Palestine.
From Europe moved about 650 thousands of Jews (350 as the reaction on Nazism, 300 as the reaction on Communism)
My point is Jewish nakba when Arab league expelled up to 1 000 000 Jews who today create cca 50% of the Israeli Jewish population.
-well known story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands
Palestine became a dumping area. What you can consider a sizable immigration by Arab Jews (still less than those coming from Russia and EU) happened mainly after 1948. And that shows that majority of Arab Jews immigrated after hostilities between the gang of Zionist thieves and Arab countries not because they really wanted to move there and it goes to prove how the creation of Israel messed with a predominantly harmonious coexistance in MENA.
Forced organized exodus of almost 1 million people (I am not talking about confiscated land and property) - far bigger than the Palestinian nakba, is the brutal crime against humanity, you excuse that by existence of Israel, are you kidding me?
To Zeinobia,
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should be reminded how happily everyone was living in the region until the Arab Muslim imperialist colonizers stole Sudan, Chad, Somalia and Nigeria from the Africans, N Africa from the Berbers, Egypt from the Copts, the Land of Israel from the Jews (so called "Palestine") and Lebanon, Syria and Iraq from the Maronites, Assyrians, Mandeans and Chaldeans, just to name a few countries occupied by Arabs.
@Qumran Please check back your information because the Jews were not living in Palestine when the Arabic army entered it , this is a real history dear not the one you are being taught in your schools
ReplyDeleteYou can check how Omar Ibn El-Khatab refused to listen to the Christian priests who bagged him to not let the Jews to the city and he refused because it is the city of God
also you can also check how the Jews were slaughtered in Jerusalem and in Palestine in General and how the doctor of Salahdin was a Jew !!
the Christian Egyptians were not living happily ever after as you think during the Roman occupation which fed them to the lions
May be you should read how people really lived happily under the Arab rule in Spain and the rest of the Arabic empire where Jews had positions that did not dare to dream to have it during Europe
You seems to forget that all those races you mentioned in Levant are descended to south of Arabia too
The region my dear lived in a harmony and happiness till the formation of Israel , claim whatever you want but this is the real truth you do not want to admit and you refuse to listen because it comes from the other side and believe me it is wrong because it comes from the other side that consider less civilized , less human and does not deserve to live on the same land you live on and breathe the air you live in
This is the real truth that you can't change because it is a history my dear , a real history which can't be hided nor changed for too long
Zeinobia,
ReplyDeleteAli Salem isn't the only Egyptian (or Arab) who visited Israel. Other Egyptians who visited Israel are Sana Hasan (in 1974), Magdi Allam, Nonie Darwish, Tawfik Hamid and Irshad Manji (she's half Egyptian). They overcame the antisemitic brainwashing Egyptian propaganda and saw Israel with their own eyes, and their accounts of their visits were mainly positive, not negative.
And there was a journalist who visited Israel in either 1957 or 1955 and met the prime minister but I do not recall his name
ReplyDeleteYou know most of these names do not live in Egypt and live abroad, Manji does not consider herself Egyptian and we do not consider herself even half Egyptian
My dear I do not want to depress but all those names you mention does not represent or even respect the Egyptian people in the beginning
I know. Most Egyptians are imperialistic colonizing arrogant racists.
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