Wow ,you know I said that Essam El-Attar could be a gay after reading the first security release saying that he had to leave Egypt because he didn't feel to belong to the society and that he went to the high commission of Refugees in Ankara and requested for refugee in a western country for human reasons ,I don't know why I believe that he is a gay ,may be because the phrases "Don't belong to the society" and "human reason"
Check my old post
Well guess what it turned out that Essam El-Attar is a real gay and he confused in front of the D.A that he left Egypt for that reason .
If you think the disgraceful confessions will stop here think again ,well it turned out that El-Attar converted his religion Islam to become a Christian catholic .He converted in a Christian catholic church in Ankara , that guy did a lot in one month in Turkey , I guess he planned his vacation very well
To say the truth after reading the initial reports that said that the Mossad gave him a fake Egyptian Christian id , well it turned out that he was already Christian when they offered him the id ,you know that point puzzled me you see , I thought that they would give him a Copt id not a catholic ,because of the majority of Christians Egypt are Copts and Canada is the number one destination , but when I read about his assignments ,I was surprised that he wasn't planted in the Egyptian Christian community there and it is active,well it turned out he was a catholic
Well the confessions ,the shocking disgraceful ones won't end here ,it turned out that the first steps of recruiting him was by having affair with the Mossad officier "Daneil Levy"
The same old Israeli Mossad technique "Sex,Money,Alchole" ,by the way that bastard is not the first gay to be recruited ,in 1960 Egypt arrested a big and very dangerous spy ring full of gays and sex fanatics ,I recall its name was "The Thomas spy ring"
You know I bet the sexuality will be the talk of Arabic news sites like Al-Arabya
From another side the family of the man is divided between two teams on whether they assign a lawyer to defend on or not ,after the disgrace he brought to the family , already after the headlines of today ,the father would publish an ad saying that this man is not his son and he is innocent from him till the judgement day
But you know I don't know why that his father has a big role 
In the End ,here is the face of the spy , a very old picture I believe ,he looks to me like a repair man to me , the photo is published in both Al- Ahram and Al-Akhbar to me
Sources in Arabic :
- Daily Wafad : El-Attar was a lousy student
- Daily Al-Ahram: The Convicted started his treason with the conversion of his religion "very catchy title in Arabic"
This just sounds too perfect. He converted, he's gay, he was recruited by the mossad, he betrayed his country, he spied on Arabs in Canada!!? Why? How is this related to Egypt?!
ReplyDeleteSounds too perfect of a villain, something is too fishy here!
@qwaider, the fishy thing is not to believe , look Egyptian police may fake cases for people but Egyptian intelligence don't fake spy cases to people in Egypt
ReplyDeletealready if you read the previous 2 posts ,you will know that Israel requested that spy which means that gay worth something for them
I will tell how this can be related in Egypt
in Canada there are many Egyptian and Arab scientists working in nuclear field and other important fields who one day can come back and help in building their nations for real , this spy by spying on the Egyptian and Arabic community can know them very well about movements informing the Mossad by the way that wasn't his primary assignment
his real assignment was to recruit young Arabs and Egyptians in Canada to work as spies and already he succeeded in that dirty mission
those new spies are dangerous on their community in Canada ,and their own Arab countries , for example think for a moment if a Canadian of a Jordanian orgin from those spies returned back to Jordan to spy on it by the orders of the Mossad what do you think about that now
I think the Egyptian intelligence learned the lessons from Ellie Cohen in Syria and Heba Salim in Paris and Egypt that they have to pay attention to the Arabic communities abroad ,put an eye on it
I am afraid that in Arab countries you don't respect the Egyptian Intelligence much because mostly you got the idea of intelligence service like the Syrian working against the people not for the people
look I am afraid I may seem talking in more Adham Sabry mode but believe me because I know very well about my country security history and I guess from my blog you know I am not a pro-government gal at all but what is right is right
by the way spies who work are against their country usually have more than one bad quality in them,the Thomas case I mentioned is the greatest example
Still sounds too fishy to me, Somethings don't add up.
ReplyDeleteAs a person living abroad, I can tell you that the likes of scientists don't really mingle with collage dropouts. At least not that much. This guy used to go to Al Azhar, and then became gay!
In any case, it's just too convenient. And it's a well known intelligence practice to attempt to delude the others by claiming that they want that spy, while he means nothing to them. Just to lead one side to go on following that dead end trail. Under the right amount of pressure (look-up: Torture) people confess not only that they're gay, but that they invented the nuclear bomb and were conspiring against their own mothers.
I don't personally have anything against the Egyptian authorities or security services. But my brain is just finding this whole story too convenient. Maybe I'm a conspiracy theory junkie after all!
Qwaider he didn't go to Canada as some kind of Al-Azhar dropout ,in fact he went with a new id ,he was working in a Bank this is one
ReplyDeleteabout being a gay and same time from Al-Azhar ,my dear friend the infamous Abdel Karim Soliman who is in Jail for attacking the Islam is also from Al-Azhar ,plus he wasn't studying in a religion branch but he was in the faculty of science
look I read many of those cases you would surprise about it , the spy character who works against his country is always strange
you know believe or not ,i feel pitty for that loser ,already he is a victim of a father who didn't see for over 15 years ,he considered him dead
in that field don't be surprise
well already being gay is already announced yesterday in his own confessions to the D.A
the question is what benefit does the Egyptian intelligence get from faking a case ??
may be because I read too much from the files ,know their history even before the revolution when they followed the police
Look I know one thing for sure the treason accusation is not an easy thing at all
and the Egyptian police not the intelligence may fake charges but the intelligence won't go and charge people with it just for fun
look I know that for some people it may look strange especially with the good relations with the United States and Israel ,but believe me sometimes I don't understand how they think those people up there are we enemies or friends or followers like the rest in the Arab world
yet it comforts with the existence of a great security at least better than the police
I'm just saying it's too perfect, and too convenient
ReplyDeleteWhy would the secret service fake things? come on... I can give you a million reasons. The least of which is that they want to keep an eye on people outside, and now they have a legitimate reason. Some "Gay" dude was charged and found guilty of treason!
What does being gay have to do with anything to begin with!? Like if he wasn't gay it will make him a better or worse person? It's just icing on the cake to have media and people feast thier eyes on the "freak". Why would someone confess to being Gay!? It just doesn't make any sense! It's not related to the state security in anyway (or is it a known thing in Egypt that gays commit treason!!!)
Look, it's like accusing someone of killing your cow, and you know what else he did? he went to the bathroom and didn't wash his hands!
Don't get me wrong, I just don't know all the details to make an informed decision. What I do know is that it's too convenient of a case ... just too convenient
qwaider ,for the second time why do you keep on eye on your people abroad ,well because of two important spy cases , one happened in Syria , the famous legandary "Elie Cohan"was planeted and lived among the Argentinian Syrian Community ,then went back to spy in Syria , trusted to the end that he was going to be chosen as a minister ,if an Egyptian officer didn't recognize his face in the newspaper and remembered that this guy was arrested in the Lavon's affair
ReplyDeleteas story Heba Salim , it is about sex , as you are saying or asking about what brings his sexuality to the topic , well Heba Salim was a hyper bisexual bitch who slept with everybody , do you know how they recruited Heba or in other word how she fall in their web , well she had an affair with a woman working as an agent for the Mossad
Do you know how the relation started between the spy and his recruiter ,he had an affair with him
The doom triangle , Sex.money.drinking ,the weak point where they control him ,the weak point that can make him betray his country and people
it is not icing ,but it helps to know why that bastard did what he did
another thing ,it is a new information may be it will show how dangerous is that this guy ,it turned out that from his assignment is to collect information and recruits members for the Egyptian copt community there ,I guess you know how important that community there
look you may feel strange because of this ,may be because there is no spying cases in Jordan like in Egypt
It's not that there are no spies elsewhere in the world. I'm sure there are plenty.
ReplyDeleteJust think logic. If someone is Gay, would having sex with him and video taping him makes ANY difference to him? Now, if he wasn't then maybe!
It's like saying, they video taped some dude having sex with a woman! do you think he would care? He wouldn't, but she would!
There is a difference between being gay and getting raped. And if he said that he's gay then he actually enjoys this stuff!
You just chose to believe what ever you want to believe. I just find it too perfect for my taste. Because, I know that to have a good cover (as a spy) you MUST be able to blend in. And these usually seem to be PERFECT people but they have other agendas.
what puzzels me is how could an alazhar student have all these bad qualities, that's another evidence of how this nation is going. with all this oppression and religious authorities terrorising people, i'am sure there are an unbeleivable numbre of people losing faith among themselves, al azhar should wake up and adopt tolerence, have a look at their methods and carriculums before its too late.
ReplyDeletedude what do you want to make you believe ?? the Egyptian intelligence to show you their records that he is a bloody spy so you can believe
ReplyDeleteI am sorry but it is not important for me or you to believe he is a spy or not
@anonymous ,my reply is not to you but it is for qwaider
ReplyDeletebut what you sad ,well it is sad ,very sad ,but we mustn't forget the fact that he was only a student in the university only not the Al-azhar education
but i agree on what you said ,but if you want my real opinion I think there is more than bad education in the case of that spy , more than his father leaving him without guidance ,he is a bad person in the first place ,no education would work nothing at all
but of course if we speak as religious guidance and Al-Azhar role well I believe my a reform for Al-Azhar ,and the first step is to spearate it from the state's control
Calm down Z, I'm not doubting you... or anything, I'm just puzzled the whole story.
ReplyDeleteI just can't take the matter simplistically, nationalistically and forget that I have a brain!
I wish I can just wish my thoughts away... but I can't they keep kicking me in the head and say... That doesn't make sense!