Ok the 40th anniversary is coming just in 24 hours and I am ready for it ,there are already several updates in several sections
First of all the Law section is updated to include the Israeli Law
Second there is a page I think you must all read in the 1967 concerning the number of our POW,it is very very important please read till the end and tell me what do you
Third I made a section to answer back the Israeli counter allegations regarding the mistreatment of Israeli pows in Yom Kippur war.
Fourth I added the Al-Jazeera short special report about the 1967 six days war , where the guest a war veteran shares his memories including being an eye witness for terrible war crimes ,unfortunately it is in Arabic ,it is in the film section.
Fifth I added a page to the 1967 file regarding the forgotten Al-Ahram newspaper expedition back in year 1995.
Here's a few quotes from an article in today's salon.com, which requires a membership fee:
ReplyDeleteRethinking Israel's David-and-Goliath past
Little-noticed details in declassified U.S. documents indicate that Israel's Six-Day War may not have been a war of necessity.
"The morning of 5 June 1967," wrote Israel's warrior-turned-historian, Chaim Herzog, "found Israel's armed forces facing the massed Arab armies around her frontiers." Attack or be annihilated: The choice was clear.
Or was it? Little-noticed details in declassified documents from the LBJ Presidential Library in Austin, Texas, indicate that top officials in the Johnson administration -- including Johnson's most pro-Israeli Cabinet members -- did not believe war between Israel and its neighbors was necessary or inevitable, at least until the final hour. In these documents, Israel emerges as a vastly superior military power, its opponents far weaker than the menacing threat Israel portrayed, and war itself something that Nasser, for all his saber-rattling, tried to avoid until the moment his air force went up in smoke. In particular, the diplomatic role of Nasser's vice president, who was poised to travel to Washington in an effort to resolve the crisis, has received little attention from historians. The documents sharpen a recurring theme in the history of the Israeli-Arab wars, and especially of their telling in the West: From the war of 1948 to the 2007 conflict in Gaza, Israel is often miscast as the vulnerable David in a hostile sea of Arab Goliaths.
A key discrepancy lay between U.S. and British intelligence reports and those conveyed to the administration by the Israelis. On May 26, the same day Eban met with Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, Dean Rusk, the secretary of state, relayed a message from Israel indicating "that an Egyptian and Syrian attack is imminent." In a memo to the president, Rusk wrote: "Our intelligence does not confirm this Israeli estimate." Indeed, this contradicted all U.S. intelligence, which had characterized Nasser's troops in the Sinai as "defensive in nature" and only half (50,000) of the Israeli estimates. Walt Rostow, the national security advisor, called Israeli estimates of 100,000 Egyptian troops "highly disturbing," and the CIA labeled them "a political gambit" for the United States to stand firm with Israelis, sell them more military hardware, and "put more pressure on Nasser."
But privately Nasser was sending strong signals he would not go to war. On May 31, he met with an American emissary, former Treasury Secretary Robert Anderson, assuring him that Egypt would not "begin any fight." Two days later, Nasser told a British M.P., Christopher Mayhew, that Egypt had "no intention of attacking Israel." The same day he met again with Anderson, agreeing to dispatch his vice president, Zakariya Mohieddin, to Washington, in an apparent last-ditch attempt to avoid war. (Anderson and Johnson had also spoken of a visit to Cairo by Vice President Hubert Humphrey.)
Rostow decided that Israel should know about the secret visit. In a June 2 note to the president, the national security advisor urged that the United States inform Israel of Mohieddin's impending trip to the White House: "My guess is that their intelligence will pick it up." The same day, Nasser sent a telegram to the American president indicating that Egypt would not attack Israel, but that "we shall resist any aggression launched against us or against any Arab state."
Fifty-nine years later, in today's conflict in Gaza, the tragic, well-publicized deaths of Israelis in Sderot from crudely built Qassam missiles -- nine in the last six years -- are dwarfed by the deaths of 650 Palestinians last year (more than half unarmed civilians, according to Amnesty International) from attacks by Israel, one of the most potent and sophisticated military powers in the world, armed with nuclear weapons.
Yet the David vs. Goliath narrative persists, obscuring a more nuanced view of the balance of power in the region. Much of this has to do with Americans' familiarity with the story of Israel as a safe haven for Jews ravaged by the Holocaust. By contrast, Arabs, especially Palestinians, have long been seen as a vaguely menacing Other, as depicted in Leon Uris' hugely influential best-seller, "Exodus." The "Exodus" history, in which Arabs are alternately pathetic or malicious, holds no room for a more layered narrative of the struggle between Arabs in Jews, in which someone like Gamal Abdel Nasser, blustering for the Arab street, may have been privately seeking a way out of war.
Did Nasser truly want peace? We may never know. On June 3, 1967, after Secretary of State Rusk had informed Israel of the pending visit from Egyptian Vice President Mohieddin, Rusk relayed a message from the president to Nasser. "In view of the urgency of the situation," Rusk wrote, "we hope it will be possible for him to come without delay." That same day, however, at a Pentagon meeting between Mossad director Meir Amit and McNamara, the prospects for war seemed closer than ever. Amit told McNamara bluntly that he was "going to recommend that our government strike." This time, the Americans did not object; indeed, the CIA had grown sympathetic to Israel's war aims, in which Nasser, seen as too close to the Soviets, would be defanged. When McNamara asked Amit how long a war would last, the Mossad director replied: "Seven days." And so the meeting between the White House and Mohieddin, scheduled for June 7, never took place. By that time, it was already Day 3 of the Six-Day War, and Israel was already in control of Sinai, the West Bank, Gaza and the skies over much of the Middle East.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/06/04/six_day_war/
@Vagabond,thanks so much for article ,in fact I feel lost here so much ,because according to my researches in the past few weeks about the six days war and they are from very reliable sources, Nasser continued sent more than 100,000 soldiers till the 5th of June despite the confirmations he received that the Syrians were setting up this for us ,you will be amazed with what I found ,already I am so confused ,because I don't understand on the July 1967 I got a magazine that I will scan insh Allah ,Nasser media machine made it a war between us and the americans while in less than a month he was kissing the American butts sending envoys ,this man really was a strange personality
ReplyDeleteVagabond this man caused the death of more than 100,000 egyptian soldiers by entering a war it could be avioded
bloody dictator
Well, I think as some of the presidential library papers are researched, more will be discovered about his realtionship with the U.S. But, I have to say, he was suspected of being pro-Communist and that's why the U.S. left him high and dry; that's why the U.S. had the coup in Iran and installed the Shah, as well. I did not send the whole article, but the Americans told the Isrealis, from their intelligence, the Israelis could wipe the Egyptian forces out in no time at all. They had superior forces and the U.S. knew it. Strangely enough, I remember watching the U.N proceedings when I was a kid - it was a big deal. And for as much as I've read about Middle East Affairs the Six Day War has not been on my list. I think, we will disciver more and more as time goes on, but one thing the article did point out was that the U.S. thought war could be avoided, was not needed and was ready to welcome Nassar's VP to talks. I didn't see anything about the Syrians in the article, but politics is usually a back stabbing business. I think what we need is an "objective" account of what happened - someone who is neither pro-Israeli or pro-Arab - a student of history who wants to get the facts straight.
ReplyDeleteBtw, I'm sorry the post(s) were so long.
In 1967 80,000 eighty thousand elite forces were fighting in Yemen to destabilise the regime in Saudi Arabia andinduce a progressive revolution in the gulf area.
ReplyDeleteNasser knew very well that egyptian armed forces were not ready for battle in terms of logistics, command and control , leadership and the available trained forces.
However it would be interesting to mention there, the Egyptian commando and some armoured brigades were at a very hight level . Their equipm,ent and training was superior to Israel.
Egyptian army needed a structural change in leadership which Nassr simply couldn't do, as field marshal Amer created a strong power base in the army.
Nasser commited a fatal mistake because he gambled with the destiny of the Arab world by stocking in sinai untrained civilains Sinai from civil life to the front for the first time.
Just as show of strenght- while he expected U.N Russia and the U.S to interfere to prevent a war.
Apart of Nasser, Saudi Arabia, King Hussien and Imprialism hold responsibilty.
Egypt created a pradigm shift in the world when she defeated England and France in 1956 and asserted Arabs as a world power. Nasser model of industralisation, socialism, self-reliance, mass education all within the framwork of Arab nationalism has made him the unrivalled leader of the Arab masses one word from him could stir up milions!
Arab nationalöism was inducing a real socio-cultural and economic change in the Arab world.
It was exactly the opposite of the fanatic wahabist retarded ideolgies, the client Jordanian and Tunisian regimes. Those rgimes had interests hat intesected with oil imperialist interests of the West.
Also Soviets wanted to undermine Nasser for despite of their massive support for him, he remained independent.
Saudis and Jordanians provoked Nasser all the time by broadcasting stories about the international forces in Sinai and Nasser's hiding behind them.
Unfortunately Nasser fell in the trap.
The role of baathists in Syria are unknown to me. I dont know whether they were ignorant or maliscious. It is hard to tell without concrete evidence.
Anyway that is the problem with Arabs, no Arab country is ever willing to play second fiddle to another, Iraqis and Syrians resisted Egypt's leadrship in the sixties. In the mean time, Egypt and Syria refused to come under Iraq's leadership in the eighties.
Unfortunately ASrabs never learn from their mistakes. For they did the same to thweir hero Sadam Hussien!
we can see the efects of 1967 at the present. Severe econiomic difficultuies rise of retarded saudi discourse to the extent that millions of Egyptians who worked and lived in the gulf came retarded and religously fanatic loaded with stupid ideas.
Very bad education that have renderd most Egyuptians quasi igniarant and incapable of critical and analytical thinking.
It is clear fronm the failur to relise how great SADAM WAS., WHY WAS THEIR A 1967?.........ETC
nOW MOST EGYPTIANS LINK VIRTUE and ethics wih a piece of cloth put on the head which has got nothoing to do with ISLAM.
IN THE 19TH CENTURY IMAM MOHAMED aBDOU WAS THINKING ABOUT ISSUEING A FATWA THAT ENABLES MUSLIMS TO DRINK WINE. SO DID SHEIKH EL- BAKOURY.
noW WE HAVE SOME EGYPTIANS WHO are fond of wahabist ideas and what is worse some o them even fail to see the iranian danger, and overllok the crimes commited by those barbars against our brothers in Iraq.
Some even like an ignorant cockroash like Najad or a terrorist DOG lIKE kHAMEINI.
IT IS ALL IN VAIN.
aRABS KILL PROPHETS. tHEY FAUGHT MOHAMED. tHE BETRAYED nASSER AND SADDAM. aND SOME OF THEM ENJOY THE SMELL OF IRANIAN FARTS.
There must be a new iron fist that brings Arabs and egyptians into the right way by iron and blood untill they ar mature enough to decide for themselves
cheers
Amre
@vagabond ,don't be sorry already the post is great and it is good that you posted here because everybody needs to know it
ReplyDelete@Amr I will publish insh Allah soon a series that would prove the innoncence of the Saudis and the jordanians from what are you saying