Monday, July 2, 2007

Just to put things straight

I will have some break from Mr. sorry Dr. Ashraf Marwan's sudden strange death , you and I need some fresh air , well not so fresh because the topic I intend to speak today is not less dangerous ,in fact more dangerous about the confessions of a dead dangerous mind in London

As you know there was a lot of talk regarding the administrative high court in Egypt order to refuse the request of Some Egyptians who converted from Christianity to Islam to revert again to Christianity ,the main problem that when you change your religion you must go and change your ID details in the civil registry that follows the interior ministry , in Egypt there is a religion column in the id that must be full ,I won't speak today whether it should be canceled or not

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Anyhow the problem of those Egyptians was that they converted to Islam and went to the Civil registry to change their religious id column to a Muslim in order to be officially recognized as a Muslim by the State after beginning recognized by Al-Azhar , then after

month or two they reverted to Christianity and they went back to the civil registry to change again the religious id column as Christians again , the surprise that this time that the Civil registry refused to change the religious column for them , it used to change it in the past but no not any more and as it is the state that refused to change the details those Egyptians had to file a case against the State in the high administrative court , and unfortunately for them that the court supported the government rule not to change what was mentioned in the id and thus they are stuck now being Muslims from the official way


Of course the so-called defenders of the Christian rights in Egypt made a crusade from this as another aggression on the freedom of the Christians in Egypt , human rights organizations abroad and also inside had joined the crusade not to mention the so-called The Copt immigrants


Look first of all believe me as a Muslim those converters won't give or take power of Islam , Islam doesn't need them with my all respect to them and it is not about Islam at all


Second from the theological point of view Al-Azhar despite their point of view about the reverts which causes lots of controversy had nothing to do with this court order which I think is the best solution to save the country from a real sectarian division


I know I sound strange but let's say first why those people convert to Islam in the first place


99.99% of those Christian Orthodox people convert to Islam due to social problems the Church and law can not and do not solve mainly the divorce


There is no divorce in the Egyptian Christian Orthodox Church despite some Egyptian Christians now accuse the current leadership and the Pope Shounda the 3rd the Pope of the Church of ignoring the old teachings as the Previous Pope Cyril VI allowed the divorce "I don't know how accurate this information is but I heard it on the TV from those Christian converter-reverts"


And this divorce problem is a real agony the Egyptian Christians are suffering from it especially the Women due to the sensitivity of the over all woman position in the society.


The only way the Egyptian Christians that was and is still in front of them is to convert to Islam and thus the marriage will be null according to the Orthodox teachings then they would revert again to Christianity ,of course there is another alternative "which I really prefer as it is inside the house solution" those people can convert to another Christian sect that permits divorce


men are the usual converters because it takes a lot of courage to play this game with religions and women usually are sensitive and you will be surprised that sometimes the Priests in the Churches may encourage the men and women who want to get divorce as last refugee of course secretly


Christian Women were relieved somehow when the New law of divorce that is based on the Islamic Sharia that gives the woman the right to divorce herself from husband ,the trick they used instead to convert to Islam was to convert to another sect ,get the divorce and return again to the mother church , famous actress Hala Sadky who got more fame because of her divorce saga was the first to use this technique after suffering years from her husband who turned to be a crook and was sent to jail for years !!


Now in the last couple of years the divorce problem turned in to a big saga especially with the persistence of the Church to stick with the rule till death does apart,the call of the secular Christians for either united civil marriage laws that give the right of divorce equally or changing the old teachings to cope with the time demands and the new churches that support divorce and thus the people of the Church may leave it to the new Churches that claim it follows the original teachings of the elder fathers


The Egyptian Church is persisting and resisting all the attempts to change its rules regarding the divorce that it was among the reasons behind its refusal to the same Christian and secular demands to change the second article in the Egyptian Constitution but of course this hard choice left the suffers no choice except to use deception to be saved from their living hell.


Yes it is deception and a dangerous one too ,I can understand the agony they are living but again this is dangerous deception and lying especially when you don't convert from one sect to another but from one religion to another that is from Christianity to Islam and then vice versa especially now in this growing atmosphere of tension between Muslims and Christians and from here came the government decision


It is not oppression or anything , but it can be considered as a lesson and warning to anyone who is going to play this game ,the danger of this game is that anyone can use it to achieve other things ,for example in between the transition phase he can marry a Muslim woman who does not know in reality that he is still on his old faith ,this can happen and please don't tell it won't happen , the man who has the courage to pretend that he believes in a faith where as he doesn't can do anything , just piece of information any Non-Muslim who wants to convert and announce his Islam must go to Al-Azhar to inform the Sheikhs who must be sure from his well to convert for the Islam itself and for that they give him a period of time and topics to read where they would question him in his knowledge , so if a Christian who wants to convert in order to divorce passed these questions about the heart and essence of Islam only , he must be one hell of an actor .


By the way those Christian converters of divorce usually use this trick many times , I already know a Christian who used this game a producer whom I won't tell his name for privacy , this court order will make him stop


Of course this didn't like some Christians who find it as an excellent opportunity to put more fuel on the sectarian fire in Egypt attacking the Muslims forgetting that the solution is not real in our hands , the solution is not simple to permit anyone to go and come as he likes ,Islam is not a game ,I think they ignore that the solution is in the hands of the Church.


The Church leadership seems to me so radical in its position and it could solve this huge problem with thousands of its people ,I don't know what is more worst with my respect to their teachings and beliefs to break a marriage that does not have any chance or to go for deception and lies claiming to leave the faith and join another one , already I don't know how this person can be trusted again !!


Some Christians are ignoring the huge problem on the expense of that court order , but let me say again Islam is not a game and it is better to play this game in their own religion changing sects as they want.


I am with you that those Christians are now stuck officially with Islam in their id will suffer , well it is a terrible thing when you are stuck with a faith that is not yours , but don't forget it is your mistake and charade ;deception always has bad consequences by the way I believe insh Allah those people will return back their Christian id recognition by State in the end , you can say they are teaching them some lesson


Look I may seem not so nice here but there are limits for everything ,lying and deception will not solve anything ,in the end the Church is the one that must solve this problem to avoid any more implications from that kind they must permit the divorce


3 comments:

  1. This sounds like a big mess. Civil divorce should be allowed. Even if the church does not recognize it, everyone still has legal rights and the right to re-marry in a church that does recognize divorce. Switching religions just to get a divorce is a sham and shouldn't be allowed.

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  2. I absolutely agree with you. Many Christian are pending the era of Pope Shenoda the III

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  3. @Vagabond,it is a big mess and the victims in it are the women in the end , I heard about mnay christian women who are really suffering and it is shame to switch religion just for divorce , but on the other hand it shows how desperate they are

    @anonymous the Pope Shounda III I am afraid began to lose more of his powers and popularity due to the men around him as I read ,mostly from the radical section in the church

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