This is a very popular video in Youtube among Egyptians and Arabs , it is known as the Egyptian Crazy Pilot , it was taken from a History channel TV series “Dog fight” in “DOGFIGHTS OF THE HOLY LAND” episode “Second season” {It was aired on the 10th of August 2007}
Now that Egyptian crazy pilot has a specific name and it is Hassan Salem El-Rafai and he is still alive unlike what was mentioned in the History Channel , this was not a desperate adventure of a mad Egyptian pilot with his poor MIG-21 , this was among the maneuvers the Egyptian pilots were trained for months on it . They already learnt from the Pakistani pilots in Syria , yup you are reading right.
The Egyptian pilot used this maneuver to escape from the IAF and he had been trained on it day and night , yet it is very hard and was known among the Egyptian fleet as the death maneuver.
I hope that you spread this post , you can copy it as you want , I just do not like lies.
You can go to the official website of that channel and post that on the Message boards or just contact them through the site.
ReplyDeleteThat might clear things up for them.
wow, even if it was trainded it is a great & crazy turn!!! I think even the israeli pilots talk in a honoring way about him.
ReplyDeleteIt really is a shame that the Egyptians were betrayed by that sneaky Jordanian kingdom (but then they are co-conspirators from day 1). Palestinians should get rid of that regime.
ReplyDeleteWas this actual footage or a reenactment?
@Medsha, I do not know if this will change anything because already the show was aired from two years anyhow Egyptian animators are making a film similar to this one
ReplyDelete@Rick , I felt the same thing but the fact that editors of that show did not bother to hear from the other side is making me angry
@anonymous , this was a reenactment,the Jordanians should not be blamed for what their King had done , already they are the one who have the right to keep or get rid from that regime
I hope that you spread this comment, you can copy it as you want , I just do not like lies.
ReplyDelete1) I would like to know how could Pakistani pilots train anyone on Migs 21 when their air-force never operated single Mig 21. And mainly how could anyone train a manoeuvre which had been considered to be impossible even by the elites of PVO CCCP, after 73 it has been never repeated and by MIG-21 documentation still described as impossible.
2) What kind of idiot would teach such a manoeuvre because even if it was made successfully the result in such a low attitude would be total loss of energy and vertical climb directly into the aim of enemy. - that is why it's been nicknamed crazy pilot
I 've seen the whole series of gofight two years ago .
ReplyDeleteI've submitted a reply on this video in the utube website but i think it was not perfect enoguh beccause i was very angry. I suggest that any of u wright a better reply, it is very important to produce our own animation work at least to clear all the faked stories about our men. The time we are through is a very bad time actually it is a nightmare and new and old genratiion don't have any confidence in themselves. beleive me this will help much motivating all of us and searching for solutions of our undetermined problms
i am Pakistani, my brother is fighter pilot in PAF sargodha air base, Every body in Pakistan know how our pilots and brave Egyptian and Syrian pilots fight in war , even Pakistani pilots shotdown 3 Israeli fighters :-)
ReplyDelete@John, I believe this manoeuvre is aimed to make the chased plain at the back of the chasing one; so it becomes the chaser. Training for such a manoeuvre can be done by starting with 6000 feet then trying with 5500 and so on.
ReplyDeleteAlso, this manoeuvre is not impossible as the Egyptian pilot proved it possible.
Hi from 2019, I'm searching about the propaganda during Arab-Israeli military conflict since 2007, I've found your post on some kind of Pakistani site released on 2014, I would like to say we must clear some points first before we judge what really happened:
ReplyDelete1- Giora Epstine is the most credit flying ace during history of air combat between Arabs and Israelis with 19 confirmed victories. took part in Six Days War, War of Attrition, Yom Kippur War and Lebanon War 1982
2- Hassan salem El refaie is credited with 0 victory over Israeli air force, some Egyptian amateurs claimed that he shot down an Egyptian Mirage on 24 October 1973, but I found It's not confirmed and he isn't among the Egyptian pilots who credited victories, Refaie took part in Yom Kippur victory only.
3- In many videos, Egyptian pilot El Mansoury claimed several times that he was titled by the Israelis with nickname "Crazy Pilot", you can see this on youtube, he even claimed that he is the one who made this maneuver and could shot down the Israeli pilot with two rockets!
4- There is no official statement from the Egyptian Air Force when the videos was released in 2007 till that day, to confirm or deny this battle.
5- Why the same Egyptian who cut the video and post it again on youtube without the scene of the Egyptian pilot death, why couldn't make thier own video with their own view without need of this piracy.
6- The title of "Crazy Pilot" was said by Giora Epstine to describe the manouver of Egyptian pilot, and it's not a nickname or tile given by Israelis, I challenge anyone to add any Israeli or western source prove that it's given by Israelis, actually there is nobody earned a title of "crazy pilot" in the history of aerial engagment.
5- El refaie release his own video on youtube saying he still alive and Giora Is lying. Well, the correct question here why you couldn't shot him down if you are so talented? Does El Manousry lie when he says he's the cray pilot and he could shot Giora?
6- Why would I belive someone who didn't shot any craft during his entire career and don't belive a flying ace with 19 victories? maybe Giora could shot the Egyptian pilot and maybe the Egyptian pilot could ejected.
Let me preface this by saying Egypt is a wonderful country. But it's quite odd how Egyptian officials (and many citizens) will never admit their faults when it comes to aviation. The BEA, the NTSB etc...they DESPISE working with Egypt on crashes because they know the Egyptians will never, EVER admit an Egyptian pilot is to blame, even when overwhelming evidence states that it is pilot error. Most airliner crashes, regardless of airline or country, are because of pilot error. But I dare you to try to find an Egyptian-piloted airliner crash that is deemed pilot error. Apparently every single Egyptian pilot is blameless and perfect. It is a slap in the face to victims and their families.
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