Monday, August 18, 2014

It all started with Egyptian Facebook pages

From couple of weeks ago the US embassy in Beirut issued that statement on its official Facebook page.
This statement was issued after rumors spread like fire in Lebanon during the fight between the Lebanese army and the ISIS in Arsal  that the U.S. created ISIS to destroy the Arab world and it would recognize the Caliphate diplomatically. As usual those rumors spread in Lebanon claimed that those rumors or rather facts were stated in Hillary Clinton’s memories. These rumors found a way offline when journalists and MPs began to ask question about them.
Of course as Arabs we do not read books now and so no one cared to really read what the former US secretary of state really said in her real latest book “Hard Choices”
The U.S embassy in Beirut had to react after Lebanese ministers and MPs like Lebanese FM Gebran Bassil began to ask questions about these quotes.

Yes Lebanese FM asked the US ambassador in Beirut about Hillary Clinton’s alleged statements about ISIS !!
Now  the source of that rumor concerning Clinton’s alleged confession is not Lebanon but rather Egypt. Yes Egypt and the Lebanese social media users took those alleged confessions from Egyptian sources on Facebook pages mostly.
Clinton and her book 

Yes fake quotes from Clinton’s books are spreading like fire among Egyptians in the Pro-Military Pro-Police Anti-Jan25 Facebook pages and twitter accounts about the role of the U.S not only creating ISIS but also the deal between the U.S and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
For instance one of those fake quotes from Clinton’s Non existent book “Plan 360” about the plan set up by the MB and the U.S which was sabotaged by the Egyptian army on 30 June and how the U.S ordered its USS Submarines to approach Alexandria but the old Russian MEG aircrafts Egyptian air forces stood against the submarines. “Do not ask me what’s that crap because honestly I do not understand how any person who uses his brain in the right way would think that this is true !!”
Yes in nutshell all those fake quotes evolve around couple of things “The Arab spring is an American plot” , “The U.S and the Muslim Brotherhood had a plan to revive the caliphate” and “The 30 June revolution led by El-Sisi and Egyptian army saved the day”.
Now I am already amazed that the U.S embassy in Cairo did not issue anything regarding those fake statements when we got Egyptian officials quoting them publicly in the media.
The ministry of interior’s official spokesperson police general Hany Abdel Latiff already quoted on TV such fake quotes and he did not care to correct what he said when he is proven wrong.
Here is also the current minister of culture Gaber Asfour saying in some public conference that the United States made up ISIS in order to confront the 30 June revolution.
Gaber Asfour : America made ISIS to face 30 June
Yes this is the minister of culture in Egypt now.
Here is a list of videos that spoke about the fake Hillary Clinton's quotes as truth in Egyptian and Arabic TV channels, mostly Egyptian TV hosts from the same old Anti-Jan25 team.
It is worth to mention that Dr. Manar El-Shorbagy was the only one I recall in the Egyptian media to address those fake quotes in her weekly column in Al Masry Al Youm Daily and yet no one cared to highlight her
Already I do not understand if the US created ISIS to destroy the Middle East and Arab world , why someone like Hilary Clinton would expose that to the world in her best selling memories !?

Cherchez le Guerre de quatrième génération !!

Now the main source of these fake quotes as well hundreds of fake rumors about Egypt, 25 January , Gaza , the Muslim Brotherhood .. you name is the Facebook pages. To be precise the Pro-Military/Pro-ElSisi/Pro-Mubarak as well the ex-radical revolutionary Pro-Conspiracy theories pages.
A screenshot from the 777 and 999 special forces page
on Facebook repeating
the same fake Clinton's quotes (@offthehookpain
Another screenshot from Martyr Ibrahim El-Rafai 
Facebook page repeating the quotes
(@offthehookPain)
Ironically all those pages warn the people of Egypt from the fourth generation warfare specifically the use of media and rumors !! When you think about it those pages are the perfect example of the so-called fourth generation warfare considering the amount of rumors they spread intentionally.

Yes intentionally when you think about it especially this systematic way of targeting certain figures or spreading certain rumors , it is like they are being orchestrated by one team.

It is not a conspiracy theory but the way they act and publish the same stuff and message to the public using the same terms and ideas show that they cannot be individual operated pages and they share the same origin.
 
It is worth to mention that the controversial 1980s’ fourth generation warfare was spread in the media by none other ex-official armed forces spokesperson Ahmed Ali who is currently expected to become the new Presidency spokesperson

Back to the Facebook pages , this is the curse of using the social media as alternative media. The weapon used by the Pro-Democracy groups and opposition groups in Egypt against the regime has turned against them I am afraid. But again this is a double edged weapon and like the tide will turn against them.
Everyday you find lots and lots of lies spread like fire among social media users in Egypt and Arab world and you feel that you are losing hearts and minds. We need more pages like Da Begad on Facebook more and more.
Of course one day the day people will realize the amount of lies they have been fed for the sake of the regime and they won’t trust those Facebook pages or those twitter accounts or those  TV hosts repeating those lies as well the regime itself just like after the 1967 defeat.

9 comments:

  1. If Egypt believed that the U.S. is backing ISIS with the objective of bringing about Egyptian destruction, then it would be incredibly stupid for the Egyptian regime to accept weapon handouts from the U.S.

    The only terrorist organization that the U.S. supports in Egypt is the Egyptian military.

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  2. If you look at the comments posted on sites like Ahram you will see a large number of paid shills and voting bots. They are just like Putin and Assadtard trolls.

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    1. Here is one with vot botting:

      http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/94307/Egypt/Politics-/Prosecution-releases-Egyptian-detainee-who-was-han.aspx

      It is not rationally possible to support the actions or charges against this woman, yet the posts here praising what happened and vilifying the woman received hundreds of up votes in a very fast period of time.

      The voting system on this website used to be more conducive to this technique, so more recent articles tend to not have hundreds or thousands of votes and instead have like 30-80. There is a pattern where the paid voting is used to defend anything remotely connected to the government and to vote down anything favorable to any other group, not just the MB. To be fair, there was some MB vote botting as well, but not on the same scale as the ongoing paid campaign by the regime. Here is another one:

      http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/102670/Egypt/Politics-/Activist-Safwan-Mohamed-arrested-for-owning-sticke.aspx

      Less extreme case:

      http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/101865/Egypt/Politics-/UPDATED-Mubarak,-sons-jailed-for--years-on-corrupt.aspx

      I remember also that there were some incitements to murder and posts supporting the mass death sentences that received 1,000+ votes. Such higher number of votes only happens on subjects relating directly or indirectly to Sisi. Without the shills, the number of votes on a given comment would rarely exceed 40.

      There are also some sort of shills, either paid or unpaid, that post using various aliases. Usually the include a name and then a comma + a city location. Sometimes there will be several such posts that are almost identical on the same topic, just with differing names. They have certain patterns that can be recognized like blaming all manner of poor government policy on population growth, opposing the April 6 movement and believing every accusation against it, no matter how ludicrous, and tying every single imaginable thing to the MB.

      Here is a case of a shill spamming an article:

      http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/102729/World/Region/Abbas-swears-in-Palestinian-unity-government-shunn.aspx


      I could search out more links that have accumulated over time, but these give a sample of what goes on. Individually, they do not really look all that weird but this pattern has been going on since late last year. There have been articles describing how Mubarak used to pay operatives to monitor internet discussions, so it is very plausible Sisi's gang is doing it on steroids. Putin and Assad also do this.

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  3. is that where it all started?

    Time magazine published an article in July stating Iran discovered "ISIS is an American plot"

    http://time.com/2992269/isis-is-an-american-plot-says-iran

    And Edward Snowden may (or may not officially) have leaked the ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi is a Jew trained by Mossad / UK MI6 (Google it).

    Either way, those heathens waving a black flag clearly dont know a thing about Islam and are getting funded from somewhere.

    Follow the money.

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  4. Well said Zeinobia ...Dr.Moustfa Kamel El Sayed has a published article today that goes in line with your excellent blog.
    @amrazim2808

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  5. To the Arab world.....“Stupid is as stupid does.” – Forrest Gump!

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