Some are claiming that we are the civilization of terrorism and that our religion did not bring anything except terror and hatred to this world and so I would like this some to read this scientific historical article about this amazing discovery the Muslim mathematicians discovered from 700 years ago , what is known as the Penrose tiling
I know it can be hard for most of you just like me to understand this except after reading it several times .
A civilization of terrorism and hate can't produce such advance in science and mathematics , especially such innovations that can't be found in the atmosphere of horror and fear .
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When you stick to society and social gossip you become a good writer. Remebr taht Abdel Wahab Mootawe3 was a society journalist, though he was one of the best writers in Egypt. But seriously speaking when you write about politcal and cultural issues you demonstate a total ignorance of the very first basics. You wrtings lack structure, your analysis is very weak, illogica,l and you always jump into very strange conclusions, most probably because you can not tell the difference between images on your mind and the facts out there.
ReplyDeleteThink about seriously. You are maybe good at picking up the current affairs, bu that is all. Your views and crtique of the affairs demonstarte nothing but uncurable stupidity. save yourself and the readers the embarassment. Although I am sure that you are stubborn and blindfolded enough not to the see reality. you might as well be thinking that what I ma saying is non sense, and what you are wrting is good. That is an honest piece of advice. have mercy on our balls please.
baby if you do not like it here why do you come in the first place , spare your balls and do not come back
ReplyDelete"sorry for the bad language but I can't keep it any longer"
"A civilization of terrorism and hate can't produce such advance in science and mathematics"
ReplyDeleteBut it can - look at Nazi Germany, look at stalinist Russia. Terror and hate are great motivators for scientist.
@PK, this is a good point , but remember what you see here is related to art ,mathematics and geometry not related to nuclear angry and biochemical wars
ReplyDeleteWe hear mostly about weapons of war, true, but if Wikipedia alone lists 108 prominent Soviet-era mathematicians, this surely means their contribution was also substantial. Humans are capable of both terrible and beautiful things, and whether it is democracy or dictatorship, Christianity or Islam, Muslim or Western European civilisation, both can be found in their heritage.
ReplyDelete@PK
ReplyDeleteWhat Muslim civilsation you are talking about? Pakistanis are Indians- part of the indian civisation. Iran is part of the indian civisation sphere as well, with special taint, though. Arabs are part of the most influential important continious Arab civilisation- he legitmate hier of the ancient near east
First, you need the environment and culture that believes in the values of knowledge enriching to art and science. That was likely existed in the Islamic world of 700 years ago not of today’s world. The proofs are before our eyes. In the more recent history the closest phenomena that resemble something like that was Mohamed Ali (he introduced Cotton to Egypt, sent scholars to Europe to learn and come back to lead the nation). Yes, Hitler was a dictator, but he believed of the value of science and technology, same about the Russian communists, scientist and technocrats lived at relatively higher standard in their society. Where in the whole ME and Islamic world of today (or the last 50 years) you see anything remotely close to this culture? . OK Egypt can cry for having 80 millions population with limited resources (which is not a 100% excuse), what about people in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE and the Gulf ? Where their priorities lie? Do they value having a PHD or a latest model Mercedes?, A Science research facility or a 7 star hotel and Casino? If you can answer these questions honestly, then you can criticize the statement .
ReplyDeleteIn this islamic world, you are talking about:
ReplyDeleteThe most influential and important scientist of alll times was alhazen( of pure Arab orgin) as well as Ibn Khaldoon and Ibn Hazim in the Arabic spain. The lingua franka of sciense and civilsation was Arabic, Islam is in Arabic. All what Iranian did was that they transfered the babylonian semitc Arab knowledge which they adopted after the savage achaemenids ravaged Iraq in 500B.C. When the Iranians were riuled by Arabs, wrote in SArabic and spoke Arabic, some of them who were totally Arabised yet of Persian origin had for the first time in their history some contribution to civilisation.
Wake up folks from your hallucionations.
No need to mention the mongolian Turks who did nothing but sacking the Arab world in the turco- Mongol wave. later on the sick ottomanian ( turco-mongol) empire lived in the shadow of Arab culture for 500 years whwre they failed to innovate, or provide an added value to civilisation. Consequantly they ruined civilsation in the Arab world along with Iranians.
Wake up people
Best example to highlight my point regarding importance of culture and philosophy espoused by the leaders of the country and region is to compare Meiji the empror of Japan (late nineteenth-early twentyth century) he elevated Japan in 3-4 decades from a backward country to world recognized entity. Compare that to Mao-Tsi-Tong he did just the oposit. Mubarak somewhere near Mao, The rest of the Gulph I don't know if they know Meiji or Mao. I know your typical answer: It's a different culture not of concern to us, but this is wrong.. people learn and borrow from other culture when they want.
ReplyDeleteZeinobia...I have to hand it to you....U r definitely for free speech because otherwise you would have deleted that weirdo amre's comment. Frankly I wouldn't have posted it.
ReplyDeleteAmre...no need to personally attack Zeinobia..She doesn't need me to defend her but get the hell of this blog if you don't like what is being said. No one particularly is interested in your dull repetitive boring redundant comments on Evil Iran. I do believe we have all told you to go away. Why are you still here? Why come where you are not wanted...mR. aMRE, Raccoon, AL hajjaj, and that other bizarre slavic name you were under and whoever else you are.
You are a mean-spirited individual and a school yard bully that seems to enjoy propagating HATE. Enough already. There is enough hate in this world.
Zeinobia's point is that with all of the anti-Islamic propaganda and garbage being promoted in the media and on the net, what most people don't realize is that Islam has a rich and vast history which allowed mathematics, astronomy, medicine, architecture, art and many other fields to flourish. If you can't understand that or you aren't interested. Get Lost. U and ur shrivelled up balls...pardon the expression Zeinobia..but he used this lame analogy.
GOODBYE ALREADY!
@PK, what you said can be true ,but I do not know do not forget,it is hard to compare the Nazi Germany or the Soviet union ,already I do not know if they are suitable to be called civilizations , short periods , the only thing I found in common is that the scientists were honoured and science was considered a great thing
ReplyDelete@anonymous, I am sorry all over the world the Islamic civilization is defined in the middle ages as the civilization of the Muslim countries whether they were in Persia or India , it is not us who are saying but it is the west and before the west and before the west there was this in the Holy QUran "There is no difference between an Arab and a foreigner except by faith"
@Ohio , I agree with 100%
@anonymous I do not suffer from this Arabic complex like some people
I agree with you
@N.American princess ,I did not publish before what he used to send me from insults against me and against my family ,but I just could not take anymore especially that he returned back ,I wish there is some blocking feature in Blogger.com