Just from half an hour Cairo Local time Mona El-Shazely's 10'o'clock finished after discussing a very important topic ,The Conditions of Egyptian Christians Copts as after few days There will be the second Coptic Convention and guess where it will be oh yes in the American Congress itself
and guess what more Adaly Basha Abdir is asking for an independent state for Copts in Upper Egypt 'the South'
not that only but he wants the UN ,the international Community and before them of Course the United States of America intervation !!!!!!! Just like Bosnia
I won't comment on this man illusions
I will comment about the show tonight , the guests were a Catholic Priest very important one he seemed but I didn't get his name
Gamal Asad whom I respect very much since he talked about the elections and the Church
A muslim writer in Al-ahram who really didn't give much to the show 'after all he works in the Al-ahram
I won't talk much but Asad and the father there
in the bottom line there are problems the Copts are facing but it mustn't to be discussed abroad in the Congress so it can be a pressure card used by the Americans against Egypt
another thing and that what I believe the Copts won't take their rights except when the Muslims take their rights .When all treated equally as Egyptians in the first place ,when there is real democracy
This convention is danger and I know one thing if the American troops put their shoes on the soil of Egypt just for the protection of minorities and all this fancy talk ,the Copts before the Muslims will fight against them
just now I remember a story about Equity , Democracy and Islam, Amr ibn Elas took a piece of land to build on it the Mosque 'the first one in Egypt' ,he bought it from a Christian lady whom he fooled and gave less price
the lady was angry and decided to go to El-madina to complain to Omar ibn Khateb ,and so she did when Omar knew what happened he called for Amr and was so angry from him in front of her,he apologized to the lady ,gave her the real value of the land
end of the story
How did the Catholic priest look like? Was he in black with a beard or in Grey with no beard?
ReplyDeleteHe may be Yohanna Qolta, but I'm not sure.
I regret very much that you respect Gamal Assad. Although every human being deserves respect for being a human, my guessing is that you have a very partial idea about this person. You need to learn more about his history.
As for Adly Abadir's requests, this is too surprising. He never talked about something like that. He used to be the least controversial among European and American Coptic activists and he was the funny guy trying to run for president.
It would be interesting to read his website, I'll go there and try to sort out what the hell is this "independent thing". My guessing is that it is a maneuvre or a political game before the parliamentary elections, as a response maybe to numbers like these.
Bottom line: I bet he is playing a political game to get more parliamentary seats for Copts. It's a shame that any of these things should be done.
Zeinab..
ReplyDeleteNow that I'm watching the program (I found it linked here),
I am so surprised at the claims!!
In this very program, Michael Meunir, the guy who is co-chairing this conference has denied any demands of "a Coptic nation" and he also said that they are not asking the UN to intervene, but they are asking Egypt to comply with the universal human rights.
The presenter insisted on interrupting him and on pushing her own thoughts about Adly Abadir (who is a very old man by the way).
The bottom line, although I have never been a fan of M. Meunir (you can consider me as opposed to him), I was impressed. This is the second time I hear him on a tape and his speech is much better than what has been reported about him. He strongly emphasized that the convention is backed by Christian and Muslim members and that it is pro-human rights of all Egyptians.
Anyway, I think everybody should see that tape and judge.
I think the whole program is good, although it is a bit biased against the US Coptic association.
ReplyDeleteI liked it and I linked it here
I think the third guy, Dr. Mohammed El-Sayed Said did very well. Yohanna Qolta was a bit embarassed.
Thanks for the info.
I am sad to see that the koptics in egypt sometimes put the blame on us for losing some of their rights forgetting that we don't have any of our rights :(
ReplyDeleteI hate saying koptics even, we are egyptians and we are all not having our rights, what will they say when they know that sometimes praying in a specific mosque may be enought reason to be arrested!!! that is injustice of course and I dare to say, it is much worse from what they are claiming, with all respect and sympathy to their claims
I believe that they are divided between two parties now, the first believes they have worse conditions and that they need help, this part is so much in a discrimination idea and honestly , i met so many of this party, the second party I am honored to know some of them, understands that we need eachother to gain our rights as egyptians, no more talk about muslim and christian
zainab, I am hurt, and as much as the gab gets larger as much as we lose the hope to gain our freedom
it must be some steps against USA coptic organisation thoughts in egypt
ReplyDeleteThey already took some measurements against them , you don't hear them as before , the media attention is less , don't forget the United States is wise ,it shifted the policy now to the Muslim brotherhood to the majority
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